Posted on 08/13/2008 9:44:45 AM PDT by Sopater
Fine. Design an experiment in which there there can be no impact from past or present experience.
I did. And it works fine. Identical facts will produce different outcomes by people in the experiment showing the supernatural origin of the mind.
You are the one who said that "Experiences differs from person to person and cannot be controlled for" and you will always assert that prior experiences caused the different outcomes. You are the one who asserts that there will always be an impact and that such an experiment cannot be performed. This is why your objection is unfalsifiable.
There's not anything wrong with the experiment. It can be performed and identical facts will produce different decisions as evidence of the supernatural nature of the mind. That much can be documented.
It is your assertion that 'experiences cannot be controlled for' and your assumption that they are the determining factor when making different decisions from the same facts that makes your objection unfalsifiable. It is impossible to defeat an objection that is unfalsifiable. Perhaps that's why you went there.
So what's the experiment?
How could a perfect God create an imperfect human?
Why? He agrees that creationism should be kept out of science! I assume that since you posted a link to him that you agree with this position.
"you incorrectly state that I have called for the "inclusion of creationism in Polish biology curricula"
It is amazing that you consider the only ones next to perfection are the creators of the creationist websites!
He didn't.
a consequence of the Fall
It was right there in what you quoted from my post.
It was right there in what you quoted from my post.
I ask again, why would a perfect God create humans that would "Fall".
OH! Well, that’s a different question.
If you’re truly interested in the answer,
and not simply trying to “gotcha” a Christian with a lame question like “can God create something He can’t move”,
there are several sources available that are much better than some anonymous guy on a political board.
I’ll take your question in good faith, regardless of how it was intended.
The topic you’re looking for is “free will”.
CS Lewis (Mere Christianity) explains it this way - those creations that are capable of great achievement are also capable of great evil. If we were automotons incapable of choosing wrong, we would have little capacity to achieve great things. Short answer, given in good faith. If you want more detail, go to Mere Christianity.
If you’re just looking for a fight, don’t bother.
Since God knew what these creations would achieve (both good and evil), he knew that he was creating certain beings to be evil.
And I used to accept both until I started looking for the scientific evidence to support them and found none.
Do you also believe the earth to be flat?
Do you also believe that dead animals spontaneously generate maggots and that trash dumps spontaneously generate rats?
Considering that many species have gone extinct, that would have made for one heck of an ark!
A little more than there is that life came from dust?
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