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To: ColdWater
I see you are moving the goalposts. Your original statement only said mutation is random. You now add “with respect to fitness”.

Please explain how this is significantly different.

Explain how a pair of dice that is "truly random" is different from a pair of dice that is merely random with respect to winning or losing.

There might be a philosophical difference, but not a difference that can be detected by mere mortals.

All the philosophizing is irrelevant, because what experiment shows is that mutation produces all possible combinations of change. Even if mutations occurred in some kind of alphabetical order, the outcome would be the same. Those that are neutral or favorable will show up more frequently in subsequent generations.

242 posted on 08/14/2008 11:48:15 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138

If you had an inking of biology, you would know that mutations are not random. As in the output of a dice that has sides numbered 1 to 6, ONLY 1,2,3,4,5,6 are possible outcomes. Nine is not a possibility.


245 posted on 08/14/2008 11:56:22 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: js1138
All the philosophizing is irrelevant, because what experiment shows is that mutation produces all possible combinations of change.

Mutation does NOT produce all possible combinations of change.

248 posted on 08/14/2008 12:04:50 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: js1138; ColdWater

Do you have a sense that your casino/dice/gambling metaphors/analogies may be incomplete or even false?

Maybe flesh those metaphors & analogies out a little more.


253 posted on 08/14/2008 12:15:40 PM PDT by valkyry1
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