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Ex-Soviet States Wary of Russian Action in Georgia (No Support from Former Captive Nations)
Reuters ^ | Friday, August 15, 2008 | Maria Golovnina

Posted on 08/16/2008 4:22:13 PM PDT by kristinn

Some of Russia's closest allies in the former Soviet bloc have distanced themselves from Moscow over its conflict with Georgia, heralding a possible rift with the Kremlin.

Belarus, Kazakhstan and others in the Commonwealth of Independent States remained silent for days after fighting erupted last week as they scrambled to work out their positions.

As Russia grew uneasy over the silence, its ambassador to Belarus chided Minsk for failing to offer open support. Belarus eventually expressed condolences for the victims almost a week into the conflict but kept it statements neutral.

Georgia then announced it was pulling out of the CIS -- a Russian-led grouping of former Soviet states -- and urged others to follow suit.

Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, who has skillfully balanced strong ties with both Russia and the United States, broke the silence on Wednesday, offering unusually strong words and saying CIS unity was under threat.

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Armenia, Russia's staunchest ally in the strategic South Caucasus region, also expressed concern.

"It has been noted that attempts to solve existing problems through military means are fraught with tragic consequences," the presidential press service said in a statement.

Russia-friendly Turkmenistan, courted by the West as a new source of energy for Europe, likewise said "conflicts must be solved only through peaceful, diplomatic efforts".

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Russia's traditional allies were more restrained and some, such as Uzbekistan, have preferred to stay out by saying nothing.

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Commentators in Russia said Moscow was caught off guard by this reaction from its ex-Soviet neighbors.

"Everyone in Moscow thought: 'We are in the right and the enemy will be destroyed', but in Minsk and other CIS capitals everyone was in disarray," Nezavisimaya Gazeta daily wrote.

"This has totally paralyzed the CIS leaders including Belarus. Moscow did not expect this from its closest ally."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; geopolitics; georgia
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This is on top of the defiance shown by the leaders of Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia standing as one in Tblisi this week.

This is a good article by Reuters. As far as I know, only Cuba and Venezuala are openly cheering on the Russians.

1 posted on 08/16/2008 4:22:14 PM PDT by kristinn
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Some of Russia's closest allies in the former Soviet bloc . . . .

Stop reading right there, folks.

2 posted on 08/16/2008 4:28:38 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Oops . . . I misread it . . . I thought Reuters was referring to the Captive Nations.


3 posted on 08/16/2008 4:30:54 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Well, thanks for the bumps!


4 posted on 08/16/2008 4:35:01 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

“Commentators in Russia said Moscow was caught off guard by this reaction from its ex-Soviet neighbors.

“Everyone in Moscow thought: ‘We are in the right and the enemy will be destroyed’, but in Minsk and other CIS capitals everyone was in disarray,” Nezavisimaya Gazeta daily wrote.

“This has totally paralyzed the CIS leaders including Belarus. Moscow did not expect this from its closest ally.””

There must be something in the water if by invading one neighbor one is surprised that other neighbors don’t support you.

Kristinn, with this and your earlier thread you have found a very interesting, underlying story IMO.


5 posted on 08/16/2008 4:38:14 PM PDT by Shermy (Lolo Soetoro Was A "Nominal Muslim" Who Enjoyed Bacon - stupid and insulting in one, typical Obama)
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You’re welcome, and I am weary of the MSM twisting itself into pretzels in order to appear “impartial” in all this.


6 posted on 08/16/2008 4:39:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Armenia, Russia's staunchest ally in the strategic South Caucasus region, also expressed concern

The Armenians wear extra white flags at all times in case they accidentally encounter a Russian on the street.

7 posted on 08/16/2008 4:48:31 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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Armenia will join them shortly.


8 posted on 08/16/2008 4:49:26 PM PDT by MarMema (The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside)
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You mean they don’t endorse Russia’s army blowing up their infrastructure and haphazardly killing civilians, then to have pockets of wild eyed Chechen vigilantes set loose on the dazed and disoriented populace? They don’t want that? Come on. Where’s their spirit of adventure?


9 posted on 08/16/2008 4:50:27 PM PDT by kinghorse
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Azerbaijan has also openly supported Georgia. As far as I know to date only Cuba came on a side of the Soviet Un... err, Russia. Not even Hugo and Mahmoud. Can’t buy me love. Even with a lot of petrodollars...


10 posted on 08/16/2008 5:03:38 PM PDT by alecqss
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Correction: I guess Hugo came home a day or 2 ago blaming everything on the Great Satan. Kept statement restricted to Ossetia though...
11 posted on 08/16/2008 5:09:50 PM PDT by alecqss
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Well they cannot trust The Bear and they we cannot blame them for not trusting the USA because “we” tend to cut and run. Yes, I know most of us on this site do not want to run but “our” government (House, Senate, Supreme Court, CIA, State Dept) has done all it can to cripple Dubya’s ability to stand tall for freedom and democracy.


12 posted on 08/16/2008 5:14:28 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: MarMema

Armenians helped two American teenaged boys visiting family who escaped from Georgia by taking a bus to Armenia. They took care of the boys, who were strangers to them, until they could fly back to the U.S.


13 posted on 08/16/2008 5:15:01 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: Shermy

Thanks. Analysts of the situation in Georgia have tended to overlook these things. It looks like the Bush administration isn’t, though.


14 posted on 08/16/2008 5:21:48 PM PDT by kristinn
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1) I knew the world wasn't buying the Russian BS, but I didn't realize it was this good.

2) I can hardly believe Rootin Tootin Reuters reported this so straight out. I wonder if the militia thugs shot at some Reuters reporters...

3) I thought Vlad had almost total control over "his" media especially after killing that woman reporter (embarrassed I don't remember her name). How wonderful to find out otherwise.

Thanks for posting this--it's a great picker upper.

15 posted on 08/16/2008 5:41:13 PM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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16 posted on 08/16/2008 5:51:50 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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To: MarMema

17 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:28 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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This is on top of the defiance shown by the leaders of Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia standing as one in Tblisi this week.

Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are a study in neurology. The Ukraine is divided into the Eastern Ukraine and the Western Ukraine. The latter sides with Poland, the former show a middle finger to both. What Ukraine are we talking about?

18 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:11 PM PDT by Words
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Kazakhstan should be immediately offered an Membership Action Plan to join NATO. Let the Russkie bastards react to that.


19 posted on 08/16/2008 6:34:52 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kristinn
Good post. As equally irritating are the people (including many on FR) who say that we cannot take sides in this because the information coming out from either side is propaganda and therefore not trustworthy.

My thought process went something like this:

"...Hmm. I just don't know.

On one hand, we have Georgia. They have been friendly to us, and polite. They like America and Americans by all accounts. They have invited our military to work closely with them, and they have the third largest contingent of troops in Iraq after the USA and Britain. I understand they even have a highway named after George W. Bush.

On the other hand, we have Russia. They were the heart and soul of the Soviet Union, one of the most evil, bloodthirsty, expansionist and repressive countries to have ever existed. Many Americans lost their lives due to the efforts of the Russians during the Cold War. They are led by Vladimir Putin who was not only a high level member of the Communist Party, but worked in the arm of the KGB that was tasked with crushing and eliminating dissent. They have worked at odds against the West and the USA in particular, going the extra mile to thwart, hinder or outright sabatoge our efforts in nearly every international arena. They not only did everything they could to hinder and obstruct our efforts to deal with Iraq and Afghanistan, but have actively aided our enemies. To top it off, on what may be one of the most dangerous and fateful events in our lifetimes, they have sided with a lunatic Islamofascist regime in Iran that has openly and proudly called for genocide by wiping out Israel and has the blood of thousands of Americans on their hands including American Marines in Lebanon. They are obstructing international efforts to keep this hideously dangerous regime from acquiring nuclear weapons, and are doing it partly to inflict damage on the West and partly for a few pieces of Judas Silver.

I just don't know. I am SO conflicted about this. I just cannot make up my mind..."

20 posted on 08/16/2008 9:38:18 PM PDT by rlmorel (If they can call George "Dubya", we can call Barack "Hussein")
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