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To: Scotswife

“It doesn’t matter what country you are talking about - that was a PITIFUL routine performed by a CHILD who had very little dance training.”

That just shows that she had very little dance training.

“Gymnasts at the very beginning level of gymnastics do not make that mistake.”

Then this would not distinguish between a Chinese 13-year-old and a Chinese 16-year-old, as it is certain that neither would be a novice. Most likely she was not trained in this because this was not part of her training, which in some cases is probably skewed in ways that are not typical of American/European practice.

“You are full of it.
I have seen many beautiful chinese floor routines.”

And I am sure you have also seen many beautiful floor routines by girls who are underage for Olympic competition. Having a lousy routine doesn’t seem to imply age.

I have seen plenty of traditional Chinese dance, and it has little relation to the rather athletic and physical activity that we are used to, either as a social practice or a performing art.


108 posted on 08/17/2008 1:00:22 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

“Then this would not distinguish between a Chinese 13-year-old and a Chinese 16-year-old, as it is certain that neither would be a novice.”

Who said she was 13?
She didn’t even look 12.
She didn’t even look 11.

Oh - that’s right.
She must be a “freak of nature” who wasn’t properly trained in dance.

“That just shows that she had very little dance training.”

LOL!
The only way you are going to manage to make it to the olympics on floor with “very little dance training” in China would be due to your young age.

What are you saying?
That the chinese FAILED to properly train a 16 year old gymnast properly in dance even though they planned on sticking her out there on floor?

Defies logic.

“Most likely she was not trained in this because this was not part of her training, which in some cases is probably skewed in ways that are not typical of American/European practice.”

not part of her training?
Are you serious?

” Having a lousy routine doesn’t seem to imply age.”

When you are talking about the olympics from a dominating gymnastics program - yes that’s exactly what this implies.

I find it almost insulting to the chinese that you are suggesting they don’t know how to properly train a 16 yr. old floor competitor.
You are saying they don’t even know enough to say the alleged 16 yr. old “hey - quit taking those walking steps!”
that they surely would have read about in their rules manuals detailing execution deductions.

“And I am sure you have also seen many beautiful floor routines by girls who are underage for Olympic competition. Having a lousy routine doesn’t seem to imply age.”

Sure - but that isn’t the point I was addressing.
You are making the ridiculous claim that the chinese don’t have the concept of grace and beauty that westerners do.
This is an insult to the chinese.
They have managed perfectly well in the past to put up beautiful, artistic, and (dare-I-say?) MATURE floor routines in the past.
When exactly did they forget about this concept of grace I wonder?

“I have seen plenty of traditional Chinese dance, and it has little relation to the rather athletic and physical activity that we are used to, either as a social practice or a performing art.”

The last chinese floor routine contained dance based on chinese culture.
She did a very good job.
I am going to assume traditional chinese dance does not involve plodding around on flat feet, with the arms hanging while staring at the floor?


113 posted on 08/17/2008 1:57:07 PM PDT by Scotswife
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