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Man kills girlfriend while showing her gun, charged with negligent homicide
New Orleans Times-Picayune ^

Posted on 08/19/2008 9:00:18 AM PDT by WilliamReading

A 23-year-old man's attempt to show his girlfriend a pistol ended in tragedy Monday night when the gun fired, killing her, according to the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office.

Averyell Davis, 23, was shot in the abdomen after the handgun her boyfriend was handling went off, said sheriff's spokesman Col. John Fortunato. Curtis C. Murray has been arrested and booked with one count of negligent homicide.

The couple were in the living room of their home in the 500 block of Behrman Highway in Gretna at about 10:15 p.m. when the gun discharged, Fortunato said. Authorities did not specify what caused the gun to fire.

Emergency responders arrived at the couple's home, where Davis' mother met them and told them that her daughter was shot inside the home.

In the living room, they found Davis lying on the floor with a wounded abdomen.

Responders transported her to Ochsner Medical Center, and on the way there, she told authorities that her boyfriend accidentally shot her, according to Fortunato.

Davis died shortly after arriving at the hospital.

Lt. Don English, the homicide detective handling the case, later booked Murray with the criminal charge at the Jefferson Parish Correctional Center.

Even though the victim claimed it was an accident, "our investigation showed negligence on (Murray's) part, and that's why he was charged," Fortunato said.

Negligent homicide defendants can face up to 5 years in prison, a fine up to $5,000, or both, according to state law.

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To: LoneStarGI
It's idiots like this that provide fodder for the gun-grabbers to go out and rage against the 2nd amendment.

You sure put the blame in the right place. Where I grew up, there were some young people who joked around shooting at each other or holding unloaded guns to their heads and pulling the trigger. Like it was all a big joke. Ha ha. Needless to say, I was pro-legislation for a long time. It took a lot of reading and listening and thinking the issue through before I finally came around.

61 posted on 08/19/2008 10:16:54 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: WilliamReading
Authorities did not specify what caused the gun to fire.

Pulling the trigger is the cause 99.999% of the time.

62 posted on 08/19/2008 10:24:18 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: hiredhand; Squantos; NFHale

dang near every anti-2A-troll talkin point in one post...


63 posted on 08/19/2008 10:26:01 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("Jesus 08"...Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: sarasota
"LOL! Anybody ever see the video of the guy demonstrating gun safety and shooting himself in the leg? It’s a riot."


It's a classic.

64 posted on 08/19/2008 10:27:56 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: WilliamReading

I call BS


65 posted on 08/19/2008 10:33:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: G.Mason

I chuckle everytime I think about it. Anybody got a link?


66 posted on 08/19/2008 10:36:04 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

Link at post 49.


67 posted on 08/19/2008 10:37:15 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Thanks! It’s a keeper.


68 posted on 08/19/2008 10:43:47 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

The guy would be a shoo in as the general in charge of generals in the Obama-lama-ding-dong army.


69 posted on 08/19/2008 10:56:21 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: G.Mason

LOL!


70 posted on 08/19/2008 11:00:47 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: WilliamReading; Squantos; NFHale; Gilbo_3
Shouldn’t we require all gun owners to pass a gun safety class? If we have to pass a driving test to get a drivers license, why not one for owning a handgun or rifle?

Nah! I'm holding out for the state to mandate forced "Parent Qualification Training" where you have to prove that you can be a good parent before creating the little tards who do things like shoot girlfriends in the guts and kill them!

Driving isn't a Constitutionally afforded RIGHT. Firearms ownership IS. To force training on people would be in contradiction to that "shall not infringe" portion which has already been watered down a plenty. By the way, federal law already mandates that you sign a "safety form" when you purchase the weapon. Those of us with suitable stocks know this. Perhaps heavy handed opinions are being voiced by those here who don't OWN firearms? Many states have made it illegal to sell handguns between individuals. We're not about to submit to training because of idiots who accidentally shoot and kill their girlfriends. Idiots are idiots and the sooner they cull themselves, and those around them out, the sooner things will "level out".

Statistically, law abiding firearms owners in America are the safest on the planet. We can't save stupid people from themselves, nor will laws which affect ONLY THEM make us any safer. If this moron didn't kill her with a pistol, he would have killed her in a car wreck, or some other sort of accident.


71 posted on 08/19/2008 11:34:17 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Gilbo_3; Squantos; NFHale
I don't understand why they would charge him with "negligent homicide". Would they do the same had the "instrument" been an automobile? If it wasn't willful, then why waste the resources? She's not coming back! She's DEAD. This is incredibly sad. This young man will have to live with the fact that he killed a young woman who he (probably) loved.

I'm not buying for a minute the lie that the gun just went off. The truth is that it was loaded, cocked, and he or she pulled the trigger. From the sounds of it, he pulled the trigger.

This guy is learning a very hard lesson indeed.
72 posted on 08/19/2008 11:41:39 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: WilliamReading

Killed her while showing her his gun. He must be hung.


73 posted on 08/19/2008 12:38:16 PM PDT by fso301
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To: WilliamReading

A 23-year-old man’s attempt to show his girlfriend a pistol ended in tragedy Monday night when he negligently pulled the trigger, killing her, according to the Jefferson Parish Sheriff’s Office.

There, fixed


74 posted on 08/19/2008 1:04:46 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: WilliamReading

Shouldn’t we require all gun owners to pass a gun safety class?


At risk of piling on to your moronic statement, let me note:

No license or government registration is required to:
Own a car, even if a juvenile.
Transport a car, even across state lines, openly or concealed, fueled or not.
Operate a car on private property.
Modify a car to make it more powerful or lethal.
Sell a car to anyone, anywhere.
Buy a car.
Etc.

When you treat guns as freely as you do cars (requiring only that they be registered for use on taxpayer-funded shooting ranges, and providing such ranges convenient to every soul on the nation) then get back to me.


75 posted on 08/19/2008 1:46:06 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: Beelzebubba

I always thought shooting a gun was more dangerous than driving a car. My bad.


76 posted on 08/19/2008 1:54:45 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: WilliamReading
Shouldn’t we require all gun owners to pass a gun safety class? If we have to pass a driving test to get a drivers license, why not one for owning a handgun or rifle?

To me it is only common sense. Of course others will use the “slippery slope” argument . . . “if they require us to take gun training, then they will take all of our guns away” . .. . That just doesn’t follow.

Why doesn’t the US Army just hand out M-16s to the soldiers and let them figure out for themselves how to shoot them? Why does the Army train and test the soldiers?

**********************

All of the above comes back to one point: That we supposedly need more government control of firearms.

That goes against what the founders of our great country envisioned. The entire point of the second amendment is to allow the citizens of this country the ability to defend themselves from a government that has acquired too much power.

Have you ever fired a gun?

77 posted on 08/19/2008 2:09:06 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: WilliamReading

I always thought shooting a gun was more dangerous than driving a car. My bad.


Indeed.

Shooting a gun is one of the safest activities around, if you don’t point it at anything that you don’t want to harm.

Driving a car carries inherent risks that can not be eliminated, compared to shooting.


78 posted on 08/19/2008 2:47:47 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: WilliamReading; Squantos; Gilbo_3; NFHale
I always thought shooting a gun was more dangerous than driving a car. My bad.

Then you obviously don't shoot.

Is it possible that you bring any more grief on yourself here with statements like this? Sheesh dude... your ignorance is really showing. Driving a car is multiple times more dangerous than shooting firearms and always has been. Look at the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports and check out the number of LEOs killed in vehicle accidents as opposed to firearms. The last time I looked at it, the spread was well over 10 to one. For that matter, check the percentage of moving traffic fatalities for any state per capita, as oppposed to gun deaths.

Good lawd-a-mercy!!! I can't believe we're even debating this crap here!

Go play with your knives, or paintball guns, or airsoft, or whatever does it for you. But cut the moronic comments please! There are lots of other forums out there where you can hate our big, scary guns and suggest ways of sending all of us crazies through state mandated training. Why don't you find one and go there? I mean...why take any more abuse from us? :-)
79 posted on 08/19/2008 3:32:56 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: WilliamReading; hiredhand; Squantos; Gilbo_3

“...Shouldn’t we require all gun owners to pass a gun safety class? If we have to pass a driving test to get a drivers license, why not one for owning a handgun or rifle?..”

Got news for ya there, WilliamReading; NO ONE is going to REQUIRE me to do anything when it comes to exercising my RIGHT.

Who’s this “WE” you’re talking about? You and who else?

This moron had his finger on the trigger, period. Guns don’t “just go off”. He killed his girlfriend because he was stupid and probably being a smartass. Who knows exactly what happened. Either way, he should do some time. As was said earlier, it culls the pack of stupid jackasses. Tragic? Sure. Preventable? Absolutely. Stupid? Yep. Paying for it for the rest of his life, every time he looks in the mirror? Absolutely. Tragic all around. But preventable nonetheless.

My kids have been shooting since they were five. Number of accidental discharges: 0

Don’t know you out here, haven’t seen you post before, but you come on here and post a stupid inflammatory comment like that, well, be prepared for a whole world of invective.

“....To me it is only common sense. Of course others will use the “slippery slope” argument . . . “if they require us to take gun training, then they will take all of our guns away” . .. . That just doesn’t follow. Why doesn’t the US Army just hand out M-16s to the soldiers and let them figure out for themselves how to shoot them? Why does the Army train and test the soldiers?.....”

The “common sense” and “slippery slope” remarks sound very suspiciously like something an agenda-driven a troll would say. Maybe I’m wrong, but your posting that particular article, and making those particular remarks combined with your 5-27-08 signup date, well, let’s just say it stinks a little bit.

“....That just doesn’t follow....”

Well, it absolutely follows, as even a casual perusal of the history of gun control will show that EVERYWHERE an UNOPPOSED State clamped down on civilian gun ownership, registration and confiscation followed - but I suspect you already know this...only an ignorant fool would not take advantage of the wealth of information that the Internet provides on the subject of gun control and “slippery slopes” before posting a comment like that. See Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Che, Hugo Chaevez, Castro, Lenin, Mugabe, Amin, Hussein....all good little Komrades that were out to make society safer by taking away evil guns “for the common good”.

“.....Army...test and train..”

Because, as anyone who has ever been through the Service (especially combat infantry) will tell you, recruits are trained to move, think, act, and fight like a single unit.

Many recruits have NEVER been exposed to firearms before, and have to be trained. At one time in this country, that wasn’t true of the majority of folks, but it is now, thanks to all the brainwashing that the liberal socialists have accomplished with their negative attitude towards my Constitutional, civil, and Basic Human RIGHT.

And just for the record, there’s a whole lot more of “WE” firearm-owning civilians than the “WE” that would try to “require” us to do ANYTHING...a fact which, I’m sure, keeps certain people of a certain political party with a failed ideology awake at nights in perpetual panty-wetting fear...

No, I think you know exactly what you can do with your “common sense” “Slippery slope” stuff...and where you can put it.


80 posted on 08/19/2008 3:36:59 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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