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To: Crystal Cove

You are hung up on adoption. Whether he was adopted or not is irrelevant, as you note in your last sentence. The question is (a) whether he was born in the US, and (b) whether his use of an Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan proves that he was once an Indonesian citizen and precludes him.


80 posted on 08/22/2008 10:48:38 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: expatpat
The question is (a) whether he was born in the US, and (b) whether his use of an Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan proves that he was once an Indonesian citizen and precludes him.

How does asking questions "prove" anything?!? I swear, people leave logic at the door of these threads.

84 posted on 08/22/2008 10:51:27 AM PDT by jmc813 (Welcome to New York, Brett!)
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To: expatpat; Crystal Cove
The question is (a) whether he was born in the US, and
If he was born somewhere else and his parents were married it's likely that he isn't eligible.
(b) whether his use of an Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan proves that he was once an Indonesian citizen and precludes him.
Why would having and using an Indonesian passport be a problem? It's doesn't put his citizenship in jeopardy according to the State Department.

It requires a lot of parsing of the Constitution and the term "natural born" to find a bar on presidential dual citizenship. Not really a "strict-constructionist" interpretation.

103 posted on 08/22/2008 10:59:46 AM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: expatpat

“The question is (a) whether he was born in the US,”

NO. the question is, was he born a citizen. you do NOT have to be born IN the us to be a us citizen. if you are born outside of the us, there are conditions that only one of your parents need to meet to make you a citizen.


112 posted on 08/22/2008 11:05:33 AM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: expatpat

Do you not have to be an Indonesian citizen to have an Indonesian passport? How could he have gotten Indonesian citizenship other than being adopted by his stepfather? Citizenship requires residency, and I have seen no evidence, or even anyone claiming, that Obama lived in Indonesia after he returned to Hawaii. His whereabouts from entering the Punahou school until now are documented. How could he have gotten Indonesian citizenship? Or how could he get an Indonesian passport without citizenship? It just doesn’t make sense.


119 posted on 08/22/2008 11:14:16 AM PDT by Crystal Cove
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