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I was just thnking today how there have been no MSM articles about the leftward lurch of the Democrats. Kudos to McClatchy for their reporting on this, even if we won't agree with their take on everything in the article.
1 posted on 08/22/2008 4:01:30 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Time to stock up on Vodka! We’re going to need it. That’s how the Russkis in the old Soviet Union got by.


2 posted on 08/22/2008 4:03:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A History and Science Minute.- "Climate change" has been going on for millions of years!)
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Sure wish we had a candidate who would fight against this. Every time we “reach across the aisle,” they grab hold and yank us closer to their side.


3 posted on 08/22/2008 4:06:35 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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Cutting taxes for the middle class is nothing but another Democrat lie ala Clinton, and Obama is worse.


4 posted on 08/22/2008 4:08:56 PM PDT by Alissa
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Why no? Don’t tell me we are moving leftward. I simply can not believe it. /s


5 posted on 08/22/2008 4:09:13 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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Only thing I disagree with here is the idea that being "against the Iraq war" is a leftward position. Having been opposed to dethroning Saddam Hussein was not a "leftist" position. If anything it was a right-wing isolationist one.

In the larger scheme, I also wonder when our language is going to catch up with reality and we stop speaking about "the Iraq war" in the present tense. What on earth is the statement "I am against the Iraq war" supposed to mean? It's like saying "I am against the French and Indian Wars". These events already happened. How can you "be against" them and even if you can, so what?

Maybe if there were anything resembling active warfare in Iraq then there would be something to be "against". But there is not. There is a military garrison stationed in Iraq and they do some counterinsurgency and training. Is that "the Iraq war"? What is there to be "against"?

Moreover, what violence there is in Iraq mostly takes the form of occasional, sporadic attacks on our troops. After all, people are fond of saying I can't say "the war" is over because there is still violence there. But if that violence is what makes "the Iraq war" not over, and you say you're "against the Iraq war", all you're saying is...you want that violence to cease. Well guess what, so do I! I want those dead-end idiots who commit violence against our troops stationed in Iraq to knock it off as well. I guess I too am "against the Iraq war".

So I guess all people really mean by being "against the Iraq war" at this point is that they are in favor of withdrawing that military presence, i.e. stationing those troops somewhere else (where? not sure). Indeed, it seems as if "the Iraq war" now means "the U.S. military presence in Iraq". But the problem there is, we've just heard that there's a tentative agreement whereby our military presence in Iraq will be scaled back by 2011. So there's nothing to be "against" in the first place; the military presence is going away whether one is "against" it or not.

Will our language ever catch up to this I wonder?

6 posted on 08/22/2008 4:18:51 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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They’re turning to the left — deeply against the war in Iraq, ready to use tax policy to take from the rich and give to the poor and middle class

They’re turning to the left?? If the Dems in America go any further left the will be way past Socialist and knocking on the door of Communist.
Oh and that take from the rich and give to the poor and middle class.. You can stick that where the sun don;t shine because that is and always has been a load of crap. They will take from the middle class also. They always do. And the middle class will get a jar of vasoline for it and better like it.


7 posted on 08/22/2008 4:24:27 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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"growing hungry after years of centrist politics for big-government solutions,"

Democrats are poised to pursue gargantuan-government solutions to satiate their insatiable appetite.

8 posted on 08/22/2008 4:31:57 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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ready to use tax policy to take from the rich and give to the poor and middle class

Really? If you ask a poor person if the Middle Class is considered rich, they'll say yes.
So the RATS are making the rich richer, and the true wealthy already
have their money. Too funny.

9 posted on 08/22/2008 4:37:05 PM PDT by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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Democrats? Scruuummm.


13 posted on 08/22/2008 6:09:27 PM PDT by mathurine
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Reads like a declaration of war.


15 posted on 08/22/2008 7:30:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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Shortly after this was posted to FR, McClatchy changed the headline to the softer, fuzzier, As Democrats Gather, Liberal Positions Gaining in Popularity.

Looks like somebody from the Democrats complained to McClatchy about the too truthful headline.

16 posted on 08/22/2008 7:37:28 PM PDT by kristinn
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