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Russia may cut off oil flow to the West (so much for freedom of Ossetia)
London Telegraph ^ | 9:26pm BST 28/08/2008 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 08/28/2008 4:33:08 PM PDT by Fred

Fears are mounting that Russia may restrict oil deliveries to Western Europe over coming days, in response to the threat of EU sanctions and Nato naval actions in the Black Sea.

Any such move would be a dramatic escalation of the Georgia crisis and play havoc with the oil markets.

Reports have begun to circulate in Moscow that Russian oil companies are under orders from the Kremlin to prepare for a supply cut to Germany and Poland through the Druzhba (Friendship) pipeline. It is believed that executives from lead-producer LUKoil have been put on weekend alert.

"They have been told to be ready to cut off supplies as soon as Monday," claimed a high-level business source, speaking to The Daily Telegraph. Any move would be timed to coincide with an emergency EU summit in Brussels, where possible sanctions against Russia are on the agenda.

Any evidence that the Kremlin is planning to use the oil weapon to intimidate the West could inflame global energy markets. US crude prices jumped to $119 a barrel yesterday on reports of hurricane warnings in the Gulf of Mexico, before falling back slightly.

Global supplies remain tight despite the economic downturn engulfing North America, Europe and Japan. A supply cut at this delicate juncture could drive crude prices much higher, possibly to record levels of $150 or even $200 a barrel.

With US and European credit spreads already trading at levels of extreme stress, a fresh oil spike would rock financial markets. The Kremlin is undoubtedly aware that it exercises extraordinary leverage, if it strikes right now.

Such action would be seen as economic warfare but Russia has been infuriated by Nato meddling in its "backyard" and threats of punitive measures by the EU. Foreign minister Sergei Lavrov yesterday accused EU diplomats of a "sick

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: energy; geopolitics; georgia; mccain; obama; oil; ossetia; pelosi; putin; reid; southossetia
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To: AmericaUnited
we. i.e. The West, can crush you like a freaking ant if we band together

Ah, yes, band together.

21 posted on 08/28/2008 4:52:44 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: Navy Patriot
And the Cleavland Browns will win the World Series :)
22 posted on 08/28/2008 4:54:31 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Putin's timing is impeccable. There are multiple storms over the next couple of weeks heading for the Gulf of Mexico. Putin needs to make max bucks on oil futures while he can...
23 posted on 08/28/2008 4:55:02 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism)
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To: Fred

Let them do it. In the end Russia will lose big time.


24 posted on 08/28/2008 4:59:41 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: Chode
what will Russia run its war machine on without oil profits???

Russia is cash rich and in the black, so they can run for a while.

Meanwhile, China will be interested in extra oil, and just loves to not do what we ask (a boycott), and some one's economy must go without oil right away, who's it going to be, Europe or the US?

25 posted on 08/28/2008 5:03:42 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: Fred

If they reduce flow or shut it off, Poland should padlock the valves on their side of the line, and leave it shut off for another week or so after the Russians try to put it back into service.

What about that line from the Caspian to Europe by way of Ukraine? Time to get that thing underway, no?


26 posted on 08/28/2008 5:04:03 PM PDT by marron
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To: Fred
If I had any money, I'd be long the US dollar, or short the euro.

I'm also shorting Obama.

27 posted on 08/28/2008 5:08:34 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (John McCain is Lucy, McCainiacs are Charlie Brown, and the football is a secure border.)
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To: Fred

Apparently there is no Russian word for “fungible”.


28 posted on 08/28/2008 5:11:41 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: alecqss
You are right!
Keep pushing them. Keep boxing them in. Keep sending our fleet into the Black Sea and delivering humanitarian supplies to Georgia. And Putin will continue to react in a self destructive way.....first they will lose the MORAL High Ground ( if they haven't already ) then the STRATEGIC once the Allies finally wake up.

The Cold War is back and we had better face it!

29 posted on 08/28/2008 5:14:59 PM PDT by mick
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To: bereanway

I think I saw this in a Larry Bond book years ago.


30 posted on 08/28/2008 5:17:48 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Fred

I understand that a fair amount of foreign investment has fled Russia since the Georgia thing.

It seems foolish to play chicken with a fungible commodity.

If Russia loses it’s energy revenue, they’ll probably be out of money in short order.

Seems they need to sell it as much as Europe needs to buy it.

And if Poland isn’t going on a crash diversification program, they are dunderheads.


31 posted on 08/28/2008 5:18:33 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Fred

Oh, B.S. It will take 10 years to see the effects of this oil cutoff at the pump and it probably won’t drive prices up more than a few cents............./s


32 posted on 08/28/2008 5:19:20 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Amen! The West should have seen this coming. Putin gets power through energy control. This may work better than the Russian Army."

Most thinking Americans with common sense have seen all of this coming since the Arab oil embargo of the seventies. Some people have wondered why this oil strategy agianst the West hasn't happened sooner. And yes it will work better than the Russian Army. It only depends on how long Russia can do without foreign cash coming in and on how long the West can hold together. I expect the Arabs to start doing this again in earnest some day in coordination with Russia. (The next serious MidEast war should cause it.)

33 posted on 08/28/2008 5:20:57 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Navy Patriot
Russia is cash rich and in the black, so they can run for a while.

Their cash position is contracting. Western capitalists are making for the door and cash inflows from investment are way down. The big money guys are starting to see that the Russians can't be trusted to keep their mitts of foreign owned assets. Cutting off oil to the west will play hell in the short term. Medium term and beyond? They can't eat oil. And wars are expensive.

34 posted on 08/28/2008 5:24:28 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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People don't seem to understand that Russia needs to sell oil as much as some nations need to buy it. I have a feeling there would be a lot of oil producing nations who would love to stop selling oil to nations they aren't exactly friendly with if they could do it without hurting themselves. But they can't. Russia doesn't have the power to hurt anyone without hurting themselves as well and we should continue to put pressure on these scumbag leaders in Russia.
35 posted on 08/28/2008 5:35:18 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (John McCain 2008!)
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To: Fred

Well, if he does carry out the threat... Russia has shot the last bullet in it’s arsenal (outside of full-scale war).

Because after that, just what can Russia do to Europe and America should we... counterattack.

For example, Putin shuts off Western Europe’s oil and natural gas. So, then the US and EU shut down all trade with Russia.

What can Russia do about it? Outside of full-scale war... they have no more options.

And if there isn’t any more options, then the diplomatic game is lost.


36 posted on 08/28/2008 5:39:43 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"What reason is there to not stop them right now?"

Just off the top of my head ... maybe a majority of Americans don't want to see a large number of major American cities reduced to irradiated rubble over a small ex-SSR.

37 posted on 08/28/2008 5:40:07 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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To: Fred

Fungible is not just a funky word. Russia is going to get hurt if they keep this up.


38 posted on 08/28/2008 5:41:22 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

Exactly. Venezuala is a perfect example.

Chavez *HATES* America. But guess who they sell the most oil to?

America.

Why? Cause if they don’t, Chavez will be out on his @ss in one of the quickest revolutions ever seen, for his oil money is buying loyalty.

Without it, he’s gone.


39 posted on 08/28/2008 5:45:03 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Poison Pill
Cutting off oil to the west will play hell in the short term.

For us more than them.

Medium term and beyond?

We will pull ourselves out and replace the loss, but it will NOT (ever again) be cheap.

They can't eat oil.

They won't have to starve if anyone breaks the boycott.

And wars are expensive.

The way we fight them, Ruskies collect as they go, so it takes longer to cost them.

We could always count on help from the UN.

40 posted on 08/28/2008 5:57:54 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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