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Rasmussen: Obama 51 - McCain 45 (from 49-46 yesterday)
Rasmussen ^ | 09/02/2008 | Rasmussen

Posted on 09/02/2008 6:40:33 AM PDT by ubaldus

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To: Edit35
Tom Palin’s DUI was in 1982. He was 22 years old. As far as the pregnancy thing I actually think it helps with middle America struggling to raise kids in the MTV world.
281 posted on 09/02/2008 8:56:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: pa mom

“I have a lot of friends who are moderate Republicans and they as a rule, don’t like the Palin nomination. They were hoping for Romney . . .And now the base is upset by the pregnancy news.”

I fall into that group, and am a Romney supporter. However, I was pleased with the Palin pick, and as a mother who raised three teenagers, the pregnancy news just gives me more compassion towards Governor Palin. Her family has certainly shown grace under fire! I had said all along that I would only vote for McCain if he chose Romney (and I still think the world of Romney) but with his pick of Governor Palin, and my observations since that pick, put me squarely into the McCain Palin Camp!!


282 posted on 09/02/2008 8:57:40 AM PDT by Primetimedonna ( It's SAN FRANCISCO, not Frisco. Charter member of the San Francisco Snowflakes)
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To: Edit35

>>Why the hell was Todd Palin drinking and driving, (if that is true).<<

Because he was 22 at the time and living in Alaska. And it was before they were married. :)

>>Not sure if that’s true, but it’s just one more thing that will ruin her reputation as a model citizen....<<

When was the last time we elected a “model citizen”?

But, more importantly, these trivialities make her a “REAL PERSON” and actually, over time, will make the MSM appear MEAN even to those who don’t support her. It is already happening, actually.

We are watching history in the making here. I firmly think that, one by one, these things will become positives. It reminds me of when I was in a march in Seattle for the first Gulf War, and some “hippies” were giving us the “V” peace sign. I was in the front and held high the same “V” and shouted VICTORY! The whole crowd started saying and doing it and the “hippies” sheepishly put their hands down.

Figuratevly speaking, I expect all of these silly allegations to go the same way.

Meanwhile, the one that “could be” serious, will also be exposed as a mere witch hunt:
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/29/palins-troopergate-beating-msm-distortions-to-the-truth/

This is gonna be great!


283 posted on 09/02/2008 8:58:35 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: syriacus

LOL!

He fits the picture of the dopey male we can easily view in commericails and sitcoms.

BTW, if he’s this diligent businesman, who’s minding the kids? Where are the kids a priority? Psst ... they aren’t ... . Kids want their parents raising them ... especially when they are little ... that is in case you want an honest opinion by kids ... .


284 posted on 09/02/2008 8:59:49 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Tom Palin’s DUI was in 1982. He was 22 years old. As far as the pregnancy thing I actually think it helps with middle America struggling to raise kids in the MTV world.”

You see that’s where PARENTS step in.

We don’t allow or watch “MTV”.

It’s pure garbage!

It is a struggle out there but we refuse to have that trash aired in this house and they know WHY too.


285 posted on 09/02/2008 9:03:22 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Tom Palin’s DUI was in 1982. He was 22 years old. As far as the pregnancy thing I actually think it helps with middle America struggling to raise kids in the MTV world.”

You see that’s where PARENTS step in.

We don’t allow or watch “MTV”.

It’s pure garbage!

It is a struggle out there but we refuse to have that trash aired in this house and they know WHY too.


286 posted on 09/02/2008 9:03:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Primetimedonna

I currently have three teens and I think all kids should be mad at Bristol. They are going to be getting lectures for quite a while . . .*grin*

I like the choice. For better or worse, she sure looks genuine, doesn’t she? I hope that translates into strong, clear stands on the issues.


287 posted on 09/02/2008 9:03:30 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Tom[sic] Palin’s DUI was in 1982. He was 22 years old.”

By the time I was 22 years old I was an officer in the Navy and subject to possible court martial for DUI or admiral’s mast at the very least, with the real possibility of a bad conduct discharge. The rules are the same for enlisted personnel.

22 is no excuse. None at all. The only reason the McCain/Palin ticket gets a pass on this from me on this is that it was not Sarah Palin who had the DUI. If it was, I would have to seriously think about not voting for her.


288 posted on 09/02/2008 9:04:32 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: LadyNavyVet

>>This pick is getting McCain more money and may get him more volunteers, but it won’t get him significantly more votes unless Palin can appeal to female independents and PUMAs.<<

Yep. And he is!
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/forumdisplay.php?s=15549b895bb3adc300b944d946af3a8e&f=84
Go past the stickies. It is actually quite interesting. They are defending Palin like a bunch of Church moms. You attack Palin’s personal life at your own political peril. And I think Obama has figured that out - at least regarding HIS rhetoric.


289 posted on 09/02/2008 9:06:32 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: ubaldus

This is absolutely hilarious!
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=27072


290 posted on 09/02/2008 9:07:09 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: LadyNavyVet

Did not say it was an excuse. Just trying to get the facts straight. The MSM is making it out like it was last year.


291 posted on 09/02/2008 9:10:40 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: nmh
I stayed home to watch my 4 kids, at a time when each of my local friends had 2 kids and worked outside the home.

Not every woman is the same.

292 posted on 09/02/2008 9:12:00 AM PDT by syriacus (FIRST check out the Alaska state webpages. THEN tell me that governing Alaska is easy.)
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To: LadyNavyVet

Rush just said that Palin was chosen to rally and expand the base.


293 posted on 09/02/2008 9:13:18 AM PDT by syriacus (FIRST check out the Alaska state webpages. THEN tell me that governing Alaska is easy.)
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To: nmh
Sad fact is that unless you home school your kids spend more time with their MTV friends than with you. They may play it one way at home but way different at school. I see it with many kids. Parents - even attentive ones - are sometimes the last to know.
294 posted on 09/02/2008 9:13:34 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: LadyNavyVet

>>22 is no excuse. None at all.<<
I agree. But there is the old “let he who has not sinned cast the first stone” thing. I suppose the fact that I know a few people that have DUI’s from their distant past, but are VERY resoponsible citizens now is impacting my opinion on this. Not one male I knew when I was in my late teens had not, on at least one occasion, driven drunk. It was also culturally a different time.

I’m giving a pass on this on barring any evidence that this was a pattern. Otherwise it is utterly irrelevant and anyone that feels the need to keep it in the forefront is exposing a latent negative bias regarding Palin. I’ve often said you can easily tell the difference between “Friend” and “foe”. I learned it from personal experience:

Friend = Tends to play down your shortcomings and play up your positives.

Foe = Tends to ignore your positive attributes and achievements but places high importance on your failures, no matter how trivial they may be.

I’ve


295 posted on 09/02/2008 9:14:39 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: LadyNavyVet
the Pubbie base was already solidly behind McCain

$10 Million Woman: Palin a Hit with GOP Donors

McCain Campaign Raises Over $10 Million Since Palin Tapped as Running Mate, By BRIAN ROSS Sept. 1, 2008

The McCain campaign raised more than $10 million in the two and a half days ...

296 posted on 09/02/2008 9:18:55 AM PDT by syriacus (FIRST check out the Alaska state webpages. THEN tell me that governing Alaska is easy.)
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To: syriacus

I know. I said it would get him more money and possibly more volunteers. That was what I meant. But Republicans are only around 32% of the electorate. McCain can get the vote of every last stinking one of us and still lose.

As for Rush’s comment, she fired up the base. We’ll see if she expands it. IOW, the definition of “expanding” the base is the one I’ve already posited, bringing onboard independent women and PUMAs.


297 posted on 09/02/2008 9:41:47 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Alter Kaker

How come you left out Zogby and CNN? Those were pretty favorable to McCain.


298 posted on 09/02/2008 9:43:22 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: LadyNavyVet

I understand what you are saying.


299 posted on 09/02/2008 9:43:56 AM PDT by syriacus (FIRST check out the Alaska state webpages. THEN tell me that governing Alaska is easy.)
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To: TheBattman
Well - the polls demonstrated their “reliability” in their accuracy in the primaries... and in the last two POTUS general elections to boot...

Primaries are hard to poll, but the pollsters (with a few exceptions) nailed the last two presidential elections.

Losers complain about polls and poll-biases, plain and simple.

300 posted on 09/02/2008 9:44:26 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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