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To: so_real

They would EXACTLY AND PRECISELY undergo a change in genetic makeup.

In response to stress a bacteria will undergo its stress response. Part of this stress response is to increase its own mutation rate and decrease its mutation repair rate. Mutations, for those of you in Rio Linda, IS A CHANGE IN THE GENETIC MAKEUP.

Therefore a bacteria under stress increases its natural tendency to mutate its DNA, thereby changing its genetic makeup.


150 posted on 09/11/2008 3:37:13 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: allmendream; so_real
"Therefore a bacteria under stress increases its natural tendency to mutate its DNA, thereby changing its genetic makeup."

While bacteria exhibit this complex biological ability, it never occurs to the evolutionist that they merely *assume* that this ability 'evolved'.

The fallacy of Affirming the Consequent lives on...

153 posted on 09/11/2008 3:45:06 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: allmendream; so_real
Therefore a bacteria under stress increases its natural tendency to mutate its DNA, thereby changing its genetic makeup.

So you're saying that the bacteria itself can manage its own mutation rate, and that mutations do not happen at random?

Whatever happened to mutations are random but selected through outside pressure?

169 posted on 09/11/2008 4:15:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: allmendream; E=MC2; GourmetDan; metmom
Therefore a bacteria under stress increases its natural tendency to mutate its DNA, thereby changing its genetic makeup.

Remember the Lenksi experiment? Turns out it was still E. coli with an operon flipped on. I would be sincerely interested in a citation evidencing a "gain" in genetic information. Simply expressing different genetic traits already inherent in the organism in response to environmental stress is not sufficient evidence for speciation. Adaptation and natural selection, yes. Macro-Evolution, no. When you plate E. coli and stress it into H. pylori, I'll print this post and eat it.
184 posted on 09/11/2008 4:45:43 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: allmendream

What is “Rio Linda”? I’m not familiar with that expression.


190 posted on 09/11/2008 5:04:58 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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