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1 posted on 09/11/2008 12:26:35 PM PDT by Schnucki
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Treating creationism as a “world view” in the classroom seems appropriate. After all, from a metaphysical standpoint you cannot prove you existed yesterday.


2 posted on 09/11/2008 12:30:07 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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Creationism should be taught in schools as a legitimate point of view to stop religious children losing interest in science lessons, a leading Royal Society scientist has urged.

That's got to be one of the best reasons I've heard so far.
3 posted on 09/11/2008 12:30:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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Yup. It doesn't have to be done in a way that insults Evolution. And Evolution can be taught in a way which doesn't make fun of religion. But acknowledge both, celebrate diversity, and move on.

Just to be clear: In a science class I would expect a series of detailed lectures about the scientific theory of evolution. I would expect merely a brief discussion about how some folks don't buy it. That's all.

But I imagine that's too threatening for the folks with the materialist world-view.

4 posted on 09/11/2008 12:32:22 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Michelle, spare me your phony outrage, you know as well as I do that dress makes your butt look big)
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Creationism should be taught in schools as a legitimate point of view to stop religious children losing interest in science lessons, a leading Royal Society scientist has urged.

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Funding should follow the child.

Let parents, teachers, and principals decide these matters privately in the private setting of at private school!

Government should get out of the education business. Government should not **force** creationism or Darwinism or a thousand other non-neutral educational topics on unwilling children.

Finally, there is no such thing as a religiously neutral school! It is axiomatic. For this reason when government is involved in education government will establish the religious worldview of some and trash that of others!

Government schools are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination!

5 posted on 09/11/2008 12:34:15 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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Geocentrism is a worldview, as is scientology.

Teach the controversy.


6 posted on 09/11/2008 12:34:54 PM PDT by js1138
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I hope this guy has tenure. If not he’s toast.


7 posted on 09/11/2008 12:37:18 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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first Palin, now this. PZ Myers must be having a total meltdown right now.


8 posted on 09/11/2008 12:40:01 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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“There is no evidence for a creator, and creationism explains nothing. It is based on religious beliefs and any discussion should be in religious studies.” Dr John Fry, a physicist at the University of Liverpool, said

OK Genius, when does your typical public school student in the US even get a shot at taking a "religious studies" class as an elective in their K-12 years? Meanwhile, science and the hideous attendent worldview is a requirment.

This is like telling some one in a whellchair that they could get the second floor of the apartment building by walking up the stairs.

13 posted on 09/11/2008 12:59:35 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Mcwhatshisname/PALIN, '08!!!)
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“There is no evidence for a creator, and creationism explains nothing. It is based on religious beliefs and any discussion should be in religious studies.” Dr John Fry, a physicist at the University of Liverpool, said

OK Genius, when does your typical public school student in the US even get a shot at taking a "religious studies" class as an elective in their K-12 years? Meanwhile, science and the hideous attendent worldview is a requirment.

This is like telling some one in a whellchair that they could get the second floor of the apartment building by walking up the stairs.

14 posted on 09/11/2008 12:59:46 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Mcwhatshisname/PALIN, '08!!!)
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Huzzah! FINALLY Last Thursdayism gets the respect it deserves.


15 posted on 09/11/2008 1:42:26 PM PDT by whattajoke
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You don’t need to teach creationism, it’s a faith and not a science. Teach evolution as a theory and discuss all sides of the issue, both pro and con. Scientists have turned evolution into a religion.


16 posted on 09/11/2008 4:57:46 PM PDT by yazoo
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Here's the quote I like:

Professor Reiss, a Church of England clergyman, said: “Just because something lacks scientific support doesn’t seem to me a sufficient reason to omit it from a science lesson.”

I can't wait to hear what he wants to add to the history lesson even though it lacks historical support! And lets ad txt msgng spelng 2 English class, yl were at it!

17 posted on 09/12/2008 8:32:47 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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