Posted on 09/18/2008 10:24:42 AM PDT by Red Badger
It runs on water -- Jeff Falk demonstrates his hydrogen powered generator. It uses an electrolyzer to break the water down into hydrogen and oxygen, then burns the hydrogen for fuel. It produces zero carbon emissions and is "very safe." Falk's goal is to get off the grid completely. Photo By Don Lee
EUREKA SPRINGS -- Are the high prices of fuel getting to you? Do you cringe whenever you pull up to the pumps, or when the electric bill arrives in the mail?
If the answer is yes, it's a safe bet most Americans share your concern.
But Jeff Falk has a different way of dealing with the current economic meltdown.
The generator in his shop runs on tap water.
"This is a technology that goes against the grain of world economics, from the point of view of the oil companies," said Falk, whose has designed and built everything from race cars to aircraft to speed boats. "Anybody who really thinks the government is going to embrace this is probably wrong. They'd probably lock you up first."
Nonetheless, Falk has done it. Starting five years ago after he read about it, he has built an electricity producing generator that runs on hydrogen rather than fossil fuels.
Hydrogen safer than you think
"There is a lot of propaganda about how dangerous hydrogen is," Falk said. "Not true. You can't approach it like fossil fuels, there are different rules. Unlike fossil fuels, which are heavier than air and pool, creating potential explosive hazards, hydrogen is the lightest element there is. It disperses. It will go right through the ceiling if you don't contain it."
Falk points out another vital distinction between hydrogen and fossil fuels.
"Burning hydrogen produces no radiant heat," he said. "It's the hydrocarbon emissions from burning gasoline, for instance, that burn you if you get in its way. The hydrocarbon emissions are also the source of its pollution."
Falk uses high-frequency DC/AC hybrid pulsed electrolyzers to separate the hydrogen and oxygen from ordinary tap water.
An electrolyzer runs a current through the water, splitting the H2O molecules into hydrogen and oxygen.
Anyone can electrolyze
Many will remember the familiar high school science experiment where wires are attached to any two-poled battery, then into two water-filled containers. As the current splits the molecules, one bottle will fill with oxygen, the other with hydrogen.
This is a little more complex.
Falk's electrolyzers do the same thing, using a small current, high frequency and high voltages to initiate the process.
Once the electrolyzer begins producing hydrogen, the generator produces enough power to fuel itself and more.
Because hydrogen burns so quickly, steam is channeled to slow down the burn.
"You couldn't run appliances off this generator at this point," Falk said. "The amperage is too low. But I'm refining it. My goal it to have the power company come out and remove their pole and then go away, because I won't need them anymore."
For every .75 amps going into the generator, 22 come out.
Falk said ideally two generators would be needed, so that one could be serviced from time to time.
Dinosaur snot unattractive fuel source
"Why do we want to keep pumping dinosaur snot out of the ground and burning it?" Falk asked. "How primitive can you get? Why don't we just leave the rest of it in the ground until we can find something better to do with it than that?"
Falk speculated units sufficient to power home use could be mass produced for about $7,500 each.
"Look at this," Falk said, holding a temperature sensor near the generator's exhaust. "Right now the exhaust is 228 degrees. If this were a gasoline generator, the temperature would be more like 800 degrees."
Falk said the his model generator uses about a pint of water an hour to produce 7,500 watts of electricity.
DIY possible
"Most of this equipment I got off the Internet, the parts and the info on how to do it," Falk said. "Eventually I can get off the grid without having to live by candlelight, and save money too."
In addition to the water-powered generator, Falk is working on an improved, highly efficient solar panel design which he expects to have up and running shortly.
Video on Falk's generator and other projects can be seen on-line on YouTube at www.youtube.com/SolgenLLC.
Do you believe in perpetual motion devices?
Ping to Mr. Mercat.
This ain’t rocket surgery!...........
So, 1 pint water = 52.5 grams of hydrogen after electrolysis. Hydrogen's energy density is 143 megajoules / kg. So the total energy in the hydrogen in 1 pint of water is 7.52 megajoules, or 2.1 kilowatt hours. His 7,500 watts from 1 pint of water / hour doesn't make any sense. Even if you don't count the energy needed to split the hydrogen from the oxygen, he's getting almost 4 times the maximum potential energy from that pint of water unless he is condensing the steam from buring the hydrogen and running it through a few times (each time ignoring the energy the electrolysis requires).
Saturn V taking humans to the moon, fueled by Hydrogen and Oxygen.
So he can just capture the exhaust...it’s water vapor and just funnel it into the water tank. It should run forever.
It makes as much sense as his claim:
“Burning hydrogen produces no radiant heat”
"In this house, young lady, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" -Homer Simpson (when his show was still funny)
No, perpetual motion machines imply that once started nothing needs to be introduced to keep it running, which is not the case here. But if this guy has figured out a way that splitting water takes much less energy than is produced when combining it again, I say go for it.
Kinda like Willie drinking from his dehumidifier........:o)
http://www.willienelsonswaterfromair.com/
Stay safe !
These threads are fun!...........
Party pooper. It's a weak attempt to sell a perpetual motion machine. The U.S. patent office is prohibited by law from even examining a patent for a perpetual motion machine.
Cripes, they ought to make passing a high physics course a requirement for getting a reporters lisence.
That is the claim of all perpetual motion machines. More energy out of the system than goes into the system. It is a rather simple to test to know when to start laughing.
Since there are no hydrogen mines here on Earth, the energy to separate the hydrogen in the rocket had to come from something. That something is the real fuel. Hydrogen is just a energy transport method.
(As a side not, the first stage used kerosene for the fuel, not liquid hydrogen.)
The picture you posted shows the S-1 first stage burning. That stage used LOX-kerosene. Only the upper two stages were LOX-hydrogen.
Yeah yeah but the secret ingredient in the tap water is di-hydrogen-oxide.. the water is doped with DHO... only then will it work..
Beat me by 2 seconds!
I use solid rockets for a quicker launch. :-)
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