Posted on 09/18/2008 10:24:42 AM PDT by Red Badger
It runs on water -- Jeff Falk demonstrates his hydrogen powered generator. It uses an electrolyzer to break the water down into hydrogen and oxygen, then burns the hydrogen for fuel. It produces zero carbon emissions and is "very safe." Falk's goal is to get off the grid completely. Photo By Don Lee
EUREKA SPRINGS -- Are the high prices of fuel getting to you? Do you cringe whenever you pull up to the pumps, or when the electric bill arrives in the mail?
If the answer is yes, it's a safe bet most Americans share your concern.
But Jeff Falk has a different way of dealing with the current economic meltdown.
The generator in his shop runs on tap water.
"This is a technology that goes against the grain of world economics, from the point of view of the oil companies," said Falk, whose has designed and built everything from race cars to aircraft to speed boats. "Anybody who really thinks the government is going to embrace this is probably wrong. They'd probably lock you up first."
Nonetheless, Falk has done it. Starting five years ago after he read about it, he has built an electricity producing generator that runs on hydrogen rather than fossil fuels.
Hydrogen safer than you think
"There is a lot of propaganda about how dangerous hydrogen is," Falk said. "Not true. You can't approach it like fossil fuels, there are different rules. Unlike fossil fuels, which are heavier than air and pool, creating potential explosive hazards, hydrogen is the lightest element there is. It disperses. It will go right through the ceiling if you don't contain it."
Falk points out another vital distinction between hydrogen and fossil fuels.
"Burning hydrogen produces no radiant heat," he said. "It's the hydrocarbon emissions from burning gasoline, for instance, that burn you if you get in its way. The hydrocarbon emissions are also the source of its pollution."
Falk uses high-frequency DC/AC hybrid pulsed electrolyzers to separate the hydrogen and oxygen from ordinary tap water.
An electrolyzer runs a current through the water, splitting the H2O molecules into hydrogen and oxygen.
Anyone can electrolyze
Many will remember the familiar high school science experiment where wires are attached to any two-poled battery, then into two water-filled containers. As the current splits the molecules, one bottle will fill with oxygen, the other with hydrogen.
This is a little more complex.
Falk's electrolyzers do the same thing, using a small current, high frequency and high voltages to initiate the process.
Once the electrolyzer begins producing hydrogen, the generator produces enough power to fuel itself and more.
Because hydrogen burns so quickly, steam is channeled to slow down the burn.
"You couldn't run appliances off this generator at this point," Falk said. "The amperage is too low. But I'm refining it. My goal it to have the power company come out and remove their pole and then go away, because I won't need them anymore."
For every .75 amps going into the generator, 22 come out.
Falk said ideally two generators would be needed, so that one could be serviced from time to time.
Dinosaur snot unattractive fuel source
"Why do we want to keep pumping dinosaur snot out of the ground and burning it?" Falk asked. "How primitive can you get? Why don't we just leave the rest of it in the ground until we can find something better to do with it than that?"
Falk speculated units sufficient to power home use could be mass produced for about $7,500 each.
"Look at this," Falk said, holding a temperature sensor near the generator's exhaust. "Right now the exhaust is 228 degrees. If this were a gasoline generator, the temperature would be more like 800 degrees."
Falk said the his model generator uses about a pint of water an hour to produce 7,500 watts of electricity.
DIY possible
"Most of this equipment I got off the Internet, the parts and the info on how to do it," Falk said. "Eventually I can get off the grid without having to live by candlelight, and save money too."
In addition to the water-powered generator, Falk is working on an improved, highly efficient solar panel design which he expects to have up and running shortly.
Video on Falk's generator and other projects can be seen on-line on YouTube at www.youtube.com/SolgenLLC.
According to the laws of physics and gas, you cain’t get more out than you put in, or you would be a sun. or a perpetual motion machine.
The trick is in the electrolysis process.
The ‘old’ way of electrolysis required a lot of input power.
The new way, is much more efficient.
Like strobes, but in water. High energy output, very brief but rapid output pulses.
I tried to have that discussion with some texas poster here some months back. I couldn't get anywhere, and finally quit when I realized that to continue was to endanger my IQ.
Ol’ Willie been drinkin’, but it ain’t come outta no dehumidifier.....but it did probbly come outta a condenser......
Oh geeze, we're smarter than that.
These threads are so much fun!...
I can only assume he’s seeking funding...
I’m sure there are a few people out there gullible enough to buy into this.
Not even suns are exempt from laws of physics.
They consume fuel and eventually burn out. They just have a lot of fuel and last a long time. In 5 billion years, those solar panels are going to be worthless.
Yes. Of course power is what is important not current or voltage. P = VI.
However when I read that, I assumed that the 0.75 amp current was some kind of catalyst current and the primary power coming from the burning of the hydrogen.
What I see happening is a two converter process.
[Electrical energy to hydrogen converter] and back again with a [hydrogen to electrical energy converter]. With a total energy conversion loss of about 75% (my SWAG).
T. Boone Gore........
Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only harnessed, Yep..
no device on earth puts out more energy than it uses..
Note that this guy’s in Arkansas...........
Some people have too much money, some people have too much time on their hands. He has both......
LOL.....yep !
I figure a old dehumidifier a few 12 volt batteries in series, home under sink water filter and a aquarium pump a person could make one of these if water was a problem in an emergency !
Stay safe RB !
Another something for nothing con man.
The choice of hydrogen as fuel was driven by energy vs. weight considerations. Energy to weight ratio very favorable with hydrogen.
So if I understand it right, there is no issue with the guy running the generator from hydrogen, just how he is gettin the hydrogen? Maybe someone can email him for some of the data and post it. They guy is into solar according to his website, I wuoldn’t mind a solar/battery option to create the hydrogen to drive a generator to get me off the grid myself. Heck, if it ran parts of my house that would be a plus.
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