Posted on 09/19/2008 7:26:42 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
“Perhaps the air force should transfer the UAV program to the army. I believe that both the army and marines use enlisted personnel as UAV pilots and have dedicated training programs.”
Good idea, I think that the ground services understand “types” better, they wouldn’t be grabbing graduating Rangers to assign them to cubicle work.
The ground services also are more likely to see that e-5s should be allowed to apply for a job that they desire and have been self training for since they were 10 years old.
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They just need a bunch of 14 year old boys. The kids will do it for hours on end, think cheeseburgers are gourmet food, will do it for a few extra bucks and will figure out more ways to “score more points” than the Air Force can.
I suggested that before....my 17-year old son could have mastered this “game” in six weeks and been a level-12 fighter pilot (his lingo for his newest game). You could have hired my kid for $1500 a month, all the Mountain Dew that he could drink, and pizza service at work. Instead of handing leather jackets and $80k a year to some college jock...we could have done this alot cheaper. I could recruit 50,000 kids in a matter of four weeks. They wouldn’t even mind moving 50 miles northwest of Vegas as their future home....and most would have had harden skills at absolute victory. They wouldn’t even have asked to wear a pilot suit...they would have been happy in casuals and flip-flops.
There are plenty of experienced ‘reserve’ or retired pilots that could be used in this type of operation. Here in Tucson there must be at least 300 pilots with combat time now in civilian life that could do this work with very little training and release the new pilots to get their real life flight experience. This policy is outright STUPID!
I’ve actually flown a privately owned UAV.
Ok, it was a really simple home-made Styrofoam one.
But I had it out a least a mile and was taking picture of peoples back yards!
Oh, yeah, 100% fly-by-wire.
If the USAF created a civilian program, I think its something I would try for.
No way I could get in as a regular pilot though.
I have Flightgear (Linux flight sim) and have fly-by-wire experience.
Fly-by-wire is a bit harder.(At least with what I was using)
Which is why they went to "navigators" for RIOs. The Navy had Naval Flight Officers, but they had no controls in the back of their F-4s or the F-14. The AF started out with pilots in the backseat, but soon figured that they could train dedicated backseaters more quickly and cheaply. They can do the same with drone pilots, whether officer, warrant, or NCO.
Heck they could use contractors. Maybe have the contractors or NCOs "fly" the birds into the target area, and then hand them off to military pilots for the actual strike missions. No need to hand pure recon drones off at all.
In my experience, very few pilots were jocks, especially in college. Some in high school. Even if they were jocks, they sure as heck weren't dumb ones. Many have technical degrees.
Still I agree, they are wasted on drones. Oh you'd want a few, the officers commanding the units should be flying the birds too. Somewhat like a guy I work with. He was a helicopter pilot, an officer even though most of the pilots in the units were warrant officers. The Air Force does much the same with AWACS back end crews, enlisted and some junior officers doing pretty the same jobs, but then going on to "higher functions". (That keeps changing though, not sure what the current practice is)
Folks, you have no idea how badly this is crushing morale. First off; YOU DON’T NEED A FULLY TRAINED USAF PILOT TO FLY THESE THINGS! Sorry for the caps, but this is near and dear to my heart. We are losing really good pilots to 7 day options. USAF says; “take the predator or quit, you have seven days to decide”, Pilot’s response; “I’ll take my chances with Jet Blue”. Happens every week.
Our applicants for the USAF pilot program (ROTC or US Air Force Academy) are leaving in bunches for the US Naval Academy (I’ve got three friends with kids going to Naval Academy instead of USAFA for this very reason) and its not looking good. This is not optimum on any level. Predators and Reapers will not help us in the Taiwan straits or Iran or N. Korea. We need to stop fighting the last war (Iraq/Afghanistan) and start looking ahead. These can be flown by non-pilots with proper training, such as a UAS track where they get civilian training up to the Commercial Pilot level and then on to the UAS track. This is killing my beloved USAF.
Oh and one other thing. This jackass new USAF Chief of Staff is making our folks wear blues on Monday. Not a big deal you say. Here’s the big deal. We’re fighting 2 wars, most units are severely undermanned that are not front line units. And this dope’s first edict is to wear a admin uniform every week? This guy is the typical REMF who’s got no idea what his troops concerns are. I am appalled with all we have going on that his first impact on my USAF is to worry about blues vs work uniforms.
He’s an idiot, and after starting off under McPeak’s reign at the beginning of my career I can say I see similarities. This guy may be worse, much worse, which is saying something.
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