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Dems say they won’t get fooled again
The Politico ^

Posted on 09/21/2008 4:10:35 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Forgotten Amendments

Actually, what I meant to say that anyone voting for this bill who hasn’t read it should be drawn and quartered. :)


41 posted on 09/21/2008 6:10:22 PM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Sub-Driver

There was nothing to fool them the first time. How can they be fooled ‘again’?


42 posted on 09/21/2008 6:12:14 PM PDT by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: PureSolace

Ol’ “Leaky” Leigh! ‘Nuff said.

Oldplayer


43 posted on 09/21/2008 6:18:16 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: AndyJackson

“We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.”

-In the Continental Congress just before signing the Declaration of Independence, 1776.

Benjamin Franklin


44 posted on 09/21/2008 6:44:09 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) ("We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.")
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

You have to admire the stones of a Secretary of the Treasury who would run a protection racket on the taxpayers.


45 posted on 09/21/2008 6:58:27 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

“You have to admire the stones of a Secretary of the Treasury who would run a protection racket on the taxpayers.”

And little idiot Bush who is pushing this and does not know the time of day.


46 posted on 09/21/2008 7:18:10 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) ("We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.")
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I know that bringing up this war in Iraq thingee is going to make me unpopular, but I am going to do it anyway. Bush and his neocons so wanted their war in Iraq that they had to sell their souls to the democrats. In order to get funding for Iraq, Bush has pretty much had to give in to anything else that congress wants.


47 posted on 09/21/2008 7:38:52 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

You have no argument from me. It makes sense.


48 posted on 09/22/2008 12:32:27 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) ("We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.")
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To: Sub-Driver

LOL!

They’re still taking donations from Fannie and Freddie.

The Dems weren’t fooled, they’re just waiting for someone to put money in their pockets.


49 posted on 09/22/2008 12:52:10 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Publius

“Bless you. You’re the first on this thread to see it. It’s a sad day when I have to rely on a Democrat to save me, but there are too many people on the side of crony capitalism.”

Can you define for me the difference between crony capitalism and a healthier form of capitalism? I hear this term sometimes, but I am not as economically saavy as I am in other fields.


50 posted on 10/03/2008 12:58:36 PM PDT by Cato Uticensis
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To: Cato Uticensis
Capitalism works best when the playing field is level. That way, success comes from effort and earned merit.

Crony capitalism comes about when the playing field is tilted to those in power, or those experiencing the favor of those in power. Modern China is an example of how it works. Members of the Communist Party and generals in the Chinese military own different enterprises, and Chinese industrial policy is tilted to favor them.

The economist James Dale Davidson likes to tell of the first development of capitalism in China. In the 9th century AD, some Chinese businessmen developed a primitive process for making steel. They quickly made a lot of money due to the demand for their product. Courtiers around the emporer pointed out that these men had achieved success without receiving a mandate for that success from the emporer. They were independent of the emporer's power. They lacked the Mandate of Heaven. Disharmony had entered the Middle Kingdom.

The emporer solved the problem by sending in the army to break up the steel foundries and behead the owners. Thus genuine capitalism rose and fell in 9th century China.

The Chinese prefer the crony version so that power can be maintained from the proper places. Unforunately, we have become like them.

51 posted on 10/03/2008 1:13:59 PM PDT by Publius (Atlas is getting ready to shrug.)
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To: Publius

LOL, I was just talking about the Middle Kingdom to my mentor in an email this morning.

I see what you mean, it is something of a monopoly. No, that is not good.

I don’t think we’re at 9th century China yet, but one day we will be if things don’t change.

I was reading Mommsen’s History of Rome a couple years back. I was trying to find info on the Phyrric War, of which there is a dearth. One thing Mommsen said to me stuck though.

Pyrrus was Alexander the Great’s cousin and dreamed of starting a great Western Empire to match Alexander’s Eastern one. The man was a brilliant general, but Rome and Carthage formed an alliance that drove him off.

During the days of the Roman Empire, Greeks imagined what would have happened if either Pyrrus had won or if Alexander had lived to march West. Mommsen said that even if the Greeks had won their war against Rome, they could not have turned the Romans and other warlike Italian tribes in fellahin (peasants totally obedient to their absolutist ruler with no means of self-defense). And then I thought of the Romans a thousand years after the Pyrric War, how they were serfs of Gothic thanes. The only people who could turn them into fellahin were themselves. And we can have revival here in America, or we can turn ourselves into fellahin too.


52 posted on 10/03/2008 1:33:07 PM PDT by Cato Uticensis
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