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Richland school's discipline program draws fire from parents
City Herald. ^ | Monday, Oct. 06, 2008 | By Sara Schilling, Herald staff writer

Posted on 10/07/2008 6:33:19 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20

A new discipline program at Chief Joseph Middle School in Richland has irked some parents and they want it replaced.

One mother dislikes it so much that she designed a button featuring a symbol of it next to a picture of Adolph Hitler.

But school leaders and other parents say the Make Your Day program is creating a better learning environment and cutting down on time students spend out of class being disciplined.

The program is new to Chief Joseph this year. It's not in any other Richland schools, but it is used in Kennewick, Pasco and other districts across the state and country.

The five-step program emphasizes students' responsibility for their own behavior. If they disrupt class, they're making a "choice" to move to Step 1 of the program.

That means they sit facing away from the class for a few minutes. If they continue acting out, they go on to Step 2 and stand facing away from the class.

Step 3 means focusing on the school's rule that, "No one has the right to interfere with anyone's learning, safety or well-being."

Steps 4 and 5 involve a parent conference or leaving school for the rest of the day or longer.

Shannon Jones, who organized a parent meeting against the program last week that drew about 50 people, said she worries about the emotional impact of Make Your Day.

It has the potential to humiliate students in front of their classmates, she said. It also lacks accountability for teachers in administering the discipline and takes valuable time away from instruction, she said.

"On the surface it sounds wonderful and positive, but if you look a little deeper and get into the nuts and bolts of the program, you will find that it is anything but positive," Jones wrote in a letter to the school board. Her daughter, Kay-Cee, 13, an eighth-grader at Chief Joseph, said many students don't like the new program. But school leaders say it's already making a difference. Expectations for behavior now are clearly laid out and students know they face the same rules and consequences in every class, said Lara Gregorich-Bennett, vice principal.

The program has led to a drop in the time students spend out of class being disciplined, she said.

For example, 11 students have missed class time because of disruptive behavior so far this year, compared with 41 students at this time last year, according to the school.

Seven students have missed class time because of insubordination this year, compared with 17 last year, the data said.

The program doesn't humiliate students, Gregorich-Bennett said. Often when kids go into Step 1 it's so unobtrusive the rest of the class doesn't notice, she said.

She said most students never go beyond the first step. The program also applies to behavior in the hallways and at lunch, and to teachers and other staff at the school. Ryan Hoff, who teaches history, said he has gained time for instruction through the program because he doesn't have to deal with as many discipline issues. Students stay in the classroom through most of the steps.

"For the first time ever, I'm seeing kids take ownership of their behavior," Hoff said.

School leaders said they spent time researching the program before deciding to implement it, and that included talking to parents.

Jennifer Ellertson, who has two sons at Chief Joseph, said she's seen positive changes because of Make Your Day.

"I started noticing first off that all the hallways were quiet," she said. "It has made a big difference in a lot of areas."

Last week, a handful of students came to school with buttons that featured a picture of a brown crayon, an equal sign and a picture of Adolph Hitler. The crayon was meant to stand for Make Your Day because its founder's last name is Brown.

Some teachers and other students at the school were offended by the buttons, staff said. Gregorich-Bennett said students were not told to remove the buttons, but some teachers talked to students about who Hitler was and why some would be hurt by the picture of the Nazi dictator.

Jones, who designed them, said she didn't mean them to be hurtful but to express that the program dehumanizes students.

Jones and some other parents are circulating a petition that Make Your Day be removed from the school by the end of January and replaced with something else.

"As parents, we don't have different goals than those espoused by the school. Our goals are the same," said Morris Bullock, who has a daughter at Chief Joseph and plans to sign the petition. "But the way they've decided to conduct this program is not the kind of thing we want."

His daughter, Lindsay, 13, an eighth-grader, said some students feel intimidated by the new rules.

School officials said there's always a period of adjustment when a new program or policy is started.

Park Middle School in Kennewick has had Make Your Day for several years, and it's now an important part of the culture, said Principal Kevin Pierce.

It's made the environment at the school more manageable and calmer, he said.

"It's the fact that the program requires staff to constantly express what the expectations are. When kids understand what they need to do and the consequences, 99 percent of (them) are going to follow them," Pierce said. He encouraged parents with questions to ask about sitting in on a class to see the program firsthand. Chief Joseph welcomes parents who want to do that, Gregorich-Bennett said.

She said the school has heard from parents and students who like Make Your Day, and also is taking the concerns seriously.

Jones said her next parent meeting is 7 p.m. Nov. 20 at 1422 Jadwin Ave., Richland. The group also plans to talk to the school board.


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"For the first time ever, I'm seeing kids take ownership of their behavior," Hoff said.

That will never do. That awful program has got to go!!!!!

1 posted on 10/07/2008 6:33:19 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

“many students don’t like the new program”

So don’t violate the rules repeatedly.


2 posted on 10/07/2008 6:42:59 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Turret Gunner A20

To hear these moonbat “parents” talk about it, you’d think the teachers were waterboarding the little brats.

The kids are basically being given “time outs”. Are we going to ban those now?

I hope they will allow parents and teachers to at least continue to recommend that children behave themselves. (Or would that be “dehumanizing”?)


3 posted on 10/07/2008 6:43:20 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Sounds like a mix of responsibility for their actions along with escalating consequences for improper behavior -- makes too much sense for a public school.

As for the complaining parent using Hitler buttons: primary violation of Godwin's Law...



4 posted on 10/07/2008 6:43:39 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

5-10% of students destroy the leaning environment for the other students. The tail has been waggin the dog for too long.

As far as “humiliating” students. They’re going to be a lot more humiliated when they find the only job they can get after high school is cooking fries because they fooled around in school.

Disciplining children also sends a message that they are important. Explainign that you are disciplining them because you want to improve their life is a positive message. When you don’t do anything, the message they get is “nobody cares what happens to me.”


5 posted on 10/07/2008 6:46:03 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Turret Gunner A20
If the information in the article is correct I do not see a problem....

I was talking to a Dallas police officer who works with Dallas public schools and is a big brother. He said teachers spend most of their time trying to maintain order and safety rather than teach..

I guess parents have a problem with this because in step 4 and 5 require they have some responsibility for their children's behavior.....

6 posted on 10/07/2008 6:46:41 AM PDT by Kimmers (Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us......Leo Tolstoy)
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His daughter, Lindsay, 13, an eighth-grader, said some students feel intimidated by the new rules.

Isn't that the whole point?!

7 posted on 10/07/2008 6:47:09 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (In VP's, McCain picked the future, Obama chose the past.)
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It has the potential to humiliate students in front of their classmates, she said. It also lacks accountability for teachers in administering the discipline and takes valuable time away from instruction, she said.

Being humiliated is a great deterrent to many kids. It is a plan that is easy to follow so the teacher does not have worry about how to discipline a child. A disruptive child takes away much more valuable instruction time.

This appears to be a great plan!!!!

8 posted on 10/07/2008 6:50:26 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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One mother dislikes it so much that she designed a button featuring a symbol of it next to a picture of Adolph Hitler.

She's already lost this argument.

If she wants to address the issue of "this":

Then she'd better also be critical of THIS guy:


9 posted on 10/07/2008 6:50:37 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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Disciplining children also sends a message that they are important.

This is an outstanding point. Kids need, but also want, boundaries.

10 posted on 10/07/2008 6:51:37 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

‘One mother dislikes it so much that she designed a button featuring a symbol of it next to a picture of Adolph Hitler.’

Guess whose kid is the troublemaker.


11 posted on 10/07/2008 6:52:11 AM PDT by 556x45
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Shannon Jones should devote one week working as a substitute teacher in the school. Let her deal with the discipline issues in the classroom while preparing the kids for a State mandated test.

I'd bet by the third day she would be ready to change the rules..... and I don't think a "time out" would be her new choice.

12 posted on 10/07/2008 6:52:15 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Obama prays to himself: "The prayer that I tell myself every night ...")
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To: Turret Gunner A20
And the little darlings might feel intimidated! How awful! I wonder how intimidated they'd feel by the paddle with air holes in it that my principal actually used.

This is a parallel to what's been happening about the oil situation: They reject and refuse every solution, but gripe that you haven't fixed the problem. Same mindset.

13 posted on 10/07/2008 6:53:31 AM PDT by BBT
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To: DJ MacWoW
What ever happened to a good old butt whoopen???????
14 posted on 10/07/2008 6:54:41 AM PDT by DallasGOPMan
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To: weegee

Question about that 0bama youth thing.

Is that logo something that 0bama supporters or detractors came up with?

Either way, the Islamic crescent pretty much says it all.


15 posted on 10/07/2008 6:56:24 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: DallasGOPMan
*Gasp* You want to hurt their feelings AND their bottoms? LOL

Paddling worked in my day. No one wanted to see Ralph U Swisher in his office. And he really was a nice man.

16 posted on 10/07/2008 7:02:27 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (In VP's, McCain picked the future, Obama chose the past.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

I agree. It doesn’t say they are beaten or duct taped and bubble-wrapped, both of which would be appropriate for Step 4 or so. Such whining.

Say, you don’t suppose that the parents are part of the problem, do you?


17 posted on 10/07/2008 7:41:57 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: 556x45

re: “One mother dislikes it so much that she designed a button featuring a symbol of it next to a picture of Adolph Hitler.”
Guess whose kid is the troublemaker.

You nailed it!

Parents of children who do not expect their children to act like decent human beings are at the root of most behavior problems in schools. Also, unfortunately, families without fathers in the home. I wonder if the mother quoted in the article has a husband at home. I would bet that she doesn’t.


18 posted on 10/07/2008 7:44:53 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan

God forbid a school teaches a child to take responsibility for their actions. That may actually prepare them for life, when they are adults.


19 posted on 10/07/2008 7:52:42 AM PDT by Nashvegas (What do you get if you offer a liberal a penny for their thoughts? Change)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
"For the first time ever, I'm seeing kids take ownership of their behavior," Hoff said.

Parental responsibility? When I went to Catholic School in the 1970s; step 1 was a scolding from the Nun...step 2 was a scolding and punishment from parents for causing a Nun to lose her temper.

20 posted on 10/07/2008 7:53:51 AM PDT by JrsyJack
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