Posted on 10/09/2008 4:47:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The weirdest thing is they never have any numbers to spew back at me. All they ever say is they don't believe the numbers or they change the subject. Without a doubt Dem voters are the most ignorant voters.
One of my arch-Dem brothers in law claimed that Reagan was responsible for high interest rates after he got elected. I looked at him in amazement and corrected his misstatements reminding him that Jimmy Carter created the high rates. He refused to back down. Reagan's dictum about what Dems/libs "know that isn't true" has never been more valid than with the Dems I know.
I thought the flat tax system was a percentage of income, just the same for everyone and that means the rich would pay more than the poor. I suppose if you could sequester the government budgets into programs that benefitted everyone equally and tax everyone equally, it would be nice but I’m not sure it could be done with any degree of logic or fairness and practically, I doubt any government would assent to being hamstrung by such sequestration. (Just to give an example: do the poor or the rich benefit more from urban renewal? You can argue that both groups benefit and then start quibbling about how much. It would be an endless and rancorous debate and there are thousands of such programs which arguably benefit both poor and rich.)
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Force everyone in the village to give him a fish, he'll vote for you in the next election.
Anyone who opens their mouth and says things like “The rich need to pay their fair share” are dumbasses without a CLUE.
I know everyone here knows this, but it’s simply something that needs to be fought again and again.
While I’m not terribly happy to hear that AIG VPs were off at some fancy-smancy place days after a bailout, I’m not going to sit here and say that “Fair” is forcing someone with more money than someone else to simply GIVE MORE MONEY.
That’s utter BS. I am not by any stretch of the imagination “rich”. I’ve got bills I have to pay, my wife and I work, our kids have moved out finally and I’m even paying some of their ADULT bills they should have paid.
But, my wife and I have been putting away 16% of our income for a bunch of years now. That’s MY freakin’ money. I saved it. It might be worth a couple hundred grand today, were it not for the US Government, Congress and bad laws allowing bad things to happen.
People who are “poor” - I see them every day even where I work - don’t work very hard, some of them.
They have “problems”. I hear it all the time. “I don’t have a HS diploma, so I can’t get a good paying job, like you, Rick!” I have been told.
I ask them “Who’s fault is it you didn’t get a diploma?” they mutter and walk off.
“You make a lot of money, Rick, you can go on vacation, I only make minimum wage, I’m happy Congress at least raised minimum wage!”
So I reply, “Really? And yet you’re still working for this cleaning company that won’t give you a sick day, or a vacation? You’re only allowed to work 35 hours? And you’re happy you’re making minimum wages, no matter what they are?”
The person says, “I’m happy to have a job. You have a career!”
I explain that my “Career” was the military, and these days this is a “job” and I only am working until I have enough money saved to QUIT and do what I want to do (which is buy a boat, sail the Caribbean with my dear wife) - and hell, I don’t think I can ever afford that now with the crash.
The “poor” are happy I’m in the same boat with them now....
One laughed and said to me, “How’s it feel rich boy, to be poor?”
/Sigh
Yes, and didn't we hear him say that he doesn't call it "redistribution of wealth"?
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