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To: Mad Dawg

Has it not occurred to any of you that McCain has to win independent voters to win the election? Apparently he’s not extreme right-wing enough for you, so he’s some kind of quitter? Hell, he’s running as a maverick, on a platform of change precisely because Bush listened to you guys and went too far! McCain is a REPUBLICAN, not a Libertarian/Anarchist. You want no government at all, go to Somalia. There’s your Libertarian paradise on earth. You can even be a pirate there!


72 posted on 10/12/2008 3:29:33 PM PDT by teethodore
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To: teethodore
Well, thanks for the "you guys". Now at least we know a little more about where you're coming from. Too bad that that particular school of opinion doesn't deal as much in facts or reason as it does in name-calling, which it only stops doing to complain that others are calling it names.

You are quite right that Dubya was not right wing enough for us. So, a fortiori (stop me if I'm going too fast for you) McCain is not right wing enough for us.

Anyone who thinks the Feds have a role in public education is (a)not reading the Constitution with enough care and therefore (b) not right wing enough for me. Anyone who thinks it's appropriate for the government to limit charitable giving by taxation is not right wing enough f or me.

A little more than 150 years ago: in the LIncoln Douglass debates, it was clear that Douglass was for a kind of states rights or a kind of individual right. But it was a spurious kind of "right" because it was the right for dates to determine for themselves whether or not slavery should be legal, and the right of individuals in those states to deal in human lives as though they were commodities.

Today's Democrats are in league with that day's Douglass in that they want to preserve or even to make stronger the "right" to kill an innocent human with impunity. Both slavery and abortion are spurious rights because they cannot be exercised without negating the fundamental rights of other innocent human beings.

While the Democrats trumpeted then and trumpet now their support for abridging the rights of others, they also endeavor to abridge the free exercise of political speech. John McCain shares some blame for this. So not only is he not right wing enough for me, he is not even Republican enough for me, since the Republican party was born to support civil rights and still makes a few futile efforts in that direction, while the Democrats call everything they don't like racist and use whatever means they can to stifle or drown out conservative speech. They are truly the party of oppression, and nearly every time McCain has "reached across the aisle" it has been to join them in their big emphasis on government, small emphasis on every individual right that doesn't normally involve a bed and the genital organs.

It's almost funny. A young lady of my acquaintance expressed shock and horror that people actually yell at those so-called "peace" demonstrators who clamor for capitulation. When I expressed some bemusement at the flipped birds and screamed obscenities I get when I prey in front of an abortuary, she snorted and sneered at me. It is, in her Democrat Zerobama view an abomination to wage war against a known enemy who had defied the UN and attempted to assassinate a former president as we try to keep ourselves safe and, if anything, worse for people to speak against the killing of the innocent.

But this is nothing other than your changing the subject, which often passes on your side as a substitute for an admission that neither reason nor facts support your original argument which was mendacious on its face. (What did you mean by "we" back there in that post and who exactly were you accusing of "embrac[ing] or encourag[ing] racism as a means of winning votes"? Surely not me. I have worked under black men and am currently discussing entering into a business partnership with a black man who is also a good friend. (With the effect of Democrat ideas of finance on our economy the partnership probably won't work out, but that has nothing to do with race, except in the eyes of Democrats and liberals.)

It is your side that is stirring up threats of race conflict while at the same time accusing our side of embracing or encouraging it.

So now is tht false and disgusting allegation too shameful for you too follow up on it? If so, good. Apology accepted. But it might be a better apology if you actually made it instead of trying to change the subject.

The only racist views in this campaign are the ones expressed by those who think that its racist to think it's a bad thing for Obama to have as a political ally a man who is unrepentant for trying what Osama succeeded at.

76 posted on 10/12/2008 4:16:33 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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