Posted on 10/11/2008 8:00:43 AM PDT by BIOCHEMKY
Turn to FOXNews for a statement by Congressman and Presidential candidate, Ron Paul.
Good. It just shouldn’t include a fence because that is a wasted expense. Only things that will actually work, such as border patrols, should be included.
Look - illegal immigration is a two-part solution. You can’t support a fence but not speak out about the other issues that fuel illegal immigration either as Hunter didn’t do. Paul’s stand on illegal immigration was still better than all of the other GOP candidates excluding Hunter and tied with Tancredo.
Parties like the CP, the other CP, LP, GP and DP
have as their base “Give up the Ship”.
If people would recognize economic issues are the most important for the security and prosperity of our nation and way of life instead of terrorism, then we would all be better off.
Including John McCain.
heh heh... :)
Please read my other post above concerning monetary policy.
Our ability to create wealth is independent of the amount of gold in our vaults. Yes, printing more currency will devalue the currency (most isn’t printed, it’s simply a record). Increased production and reduction of debt will increase the value of the currency. Print $1 trillion in currency and increase GDP by $1 trillion and the effect is much different. The dollar represents a similar value.
Keep in mind that the current crisis was brought about by an overexpansion of credit, which was required by federal regulations. I *agree* that the current bailout is terrible. It *will* destroy our currency. However, that does not mean that we need to go to the gold standard.
I don't think the idea of tying a currency to a tangible commodity of some sort (such as gold or silver) is the wrong idea at all. Why would we even want to accept a "unit of value" that had, as its basis, nothing of value at all? At least with a gold standard (or something of that sort) we would be using something that has an intrinsic value to measure the value of our currency by. That beats any nebulous (and fraudulent) notions of fiat currency any day in my book. He’s wrong on foreign policy. We need to maintain our interests abroad.
Not at all. Our interests abroad should include trade and nothing more. We have NO RIGHT to go abroad "protecting" any such (again I say) nebulous "interests" as we always seem to be "protecting" these days. It's really just a cloak for mercantilism and domination by force. We act like a bully around the world, and we have to stop doing that. We have no business having military bases in over 100 countries. When we study how the Romans did that sort of thing 2000 years ago, we all know what to call it---empire. When we do it here in 2008 we develop a convenient blindness which disables us from calling a spade a spade when it comes to our foreign policy.
Don't be played a fool by people trying to pin "one world government" on Republicans.
It's not just the extreme right who are in on it...there are three legs to the beast....Communism, Islamic extremism and Freedom. As is proved by history...if Communism teams up with Islamics...Islamics defeat them in the end. If Communism teams up with Freedom...Freedom is defeated in the end without a blood bath. It has played over and over on the world stage.
Always remember the equation... A liberal Commie and an Islamic extremist together on a Freeman = Islamic extremist rule.
So did McCain, your point?
Are you going to hold it against one and not the other?
Well, that depends on your state. In Texas, a vote for a third-party candidate is okay in my book. McCain is going to carry Texas easily and it’s okay to send some signals.
For those in swing-states the analysis is different. Don’t elect the idiot by voting for a third-pary.
For those in states like CA and NY, I have no advice. I can see an argument for either approach. I do not envy those living in California.
You’re making the assumption that you can create wealth by adding more to the currency. That is totally wrong. All a gold standard does is prevent government from printing more than it has in gold. Which means the value of each dollar stays the same... until you add in increase in economic growth and the dollar gets stronger relative to other goods and therefore prices fall.
>>>Look - illegal immigration is a two-part solution. You can’t support a fence but not speak out about the other issues that fuel illegal immigration either as Hunter didn’t do.
Pardon? Can you repeat that with less negatives?
Ron Paul is not for the monetary system you describe. He wants to encourage competition in currency and eliminate the legal tender laws. That would not only credit to expand on firm foundation but avoid inflation built on sand.
Anybody actually know what Paul said? That might be of interest.
Don’t get upset, I voted for the lad.
“Why would we even want to accept a “unit of value” that had, as its basis, nothing of value at all?”
Ahhhh, but it *does* have value! The value is GDP decreased by debt. Our current GDP is about $14 trillion. Our current debt is much too high. We either need to increase production or decrease debt (preferably both).
In your mind, currency should be based on some thing. I agree! With a fiat currency, however, it is not just based on one thing, but *all* things. My net worth is not just determined by the amount of a metal I have, but the current value of all my stuff. If I tied my net worth to gold only, I’d be in real trouble. So will any financial system.
Yes, this is more abstract. Yes, it is more difficult to grasp, but so is libertarianism in general.
Concerning foreign policy, I agree that we are way overextended. The idea that we can do nothing, however, is just as silly as the idea that we should do everything.
I just scrolled through the entire thread. What was the announcement? Did he make it yet?
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You should go to mies.org and read the article on the cause of inflation. I’ve posted it here several times in the past.
The increase in the money supply is related to easy credit. This new money will in the very near future cause inflation.
It would be hard to go to the gold standard because they have printed so much paper. They could however make gold/silver coins that are legal tender.
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