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This analysis is incorrect because ....?
1 posted on 10/12/2008 3:49:47 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Apparently, to some, Socialism is acceptable if it is forced upon us by a Republican.


2 posted on 10/12/2008 3:56:12 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The government causes the problem, the government tries to fix the problem.

How reliable is the source — I don’t have a clue.

The fact that the first bailout won’t work was easy to see. I guess this is plan ‘b’. And Peloser’s free money is plan ‘c’.


3 posted on 10/12/2008 3:56:39 PM PDT by Tarpon (Barrack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.


4 posted on 10/12/2008 3:59:10 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: DeaconBenjamin

that’s what eventually happens when the $ is based on nothing.


5 posted on 10/12/2008 4:00:54 PM PDT by ari-freedom ("He (Obama) cannot win, Bill. He cannot win" -Hillary)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The worst part of this is that somehow the label of “conservative” has been tied to Bush, who has not been a conservative at all. So now if you try to sell conservatism to the general public, they think of the big government, borrow and spend policies of Bush and the Republican congress. This has been horrible for the conservative movement.


6 posted on 10/12/2008 4:03:02 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Well..., we’re in the Great Depression again (it will build throughout this year and into next year...).

I was wondering if I would ever see the day, having heard so much about it from my grandparents and my parents — and here it is — melt-downs of a historic and catastrophic nature all over the globe, enough to get the entire world to working together on a *global finance system* (yes, that’s coming...).


7 posted on 10/12/2008 4:04:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Jackson ... President Jackson .... call on line one ... you’re needed in the oval office again .... President jackson ... call for President Jackson .................


8 posted on 10/12/2008 4:05:21 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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"Can't you understand what's happening here? Don't you see what's happening? Potter isn't selling. Potter's buying! And why? Because we're panicky and he's not. That's why. He's pickin' up some bargains. Now, we can get through this thing all right. We've, we've got to stick together, though. We've got to have faith in each other."
George Bailey to the crowd, during the run on the Bailey Savings and Loan, in
It's a Wonderful Life (1946)

10 posted on 10/12/2008 4:06:20 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (What can I say? It's a gift. And I didn't get a receipt, so I can't exchange it.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

It is correct because unless implemented funds will be drained from US banks off shore to places where soveerign banks guarantee deposits.

The process began in Europe and deposits flooded from continental countries to Ireland where they were government guaranteed

Money is but electronic blips and can be moved in an instant

There is a panic


13 posted on 10/12/2008 4:13:53 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Off With her head.....)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Andrew Jackson, Bank Veto Message, July 10, 1832

The present corporate body, denominated the president, directors, and company of the Bank of the United States, will have existed at the time this act is intended to take effect twenty years. It enjoys an exclusive privilege of banking under the authority of the General Government, a monopoly of its favor and support, and, as a necessary consequence, almost a monopoly of the foreign and domestic exchange. The powers, privileges, and favors bestowed upon it in the original charter, by increasing the value of the stock far above its par value, operated as a gratuity of many millions to the stockholders....

The act before me proposes another gratuity to the holders of the same stock, and in many cases to the same men, of at least seven millions more....It is not our own citizens only who are to receive the bounty of our Government. More than eight millions of the stock of this bank are held by foreigners. By this act the American Republic proposes virtually to make them a present of some millions of dollars.

Every monopoly and all exclusive privileges are granted at the expense of the public, which ought to receive a fair equivalent. The many millions which this act proposes to bestow on the stockholders of the existing bank must come directly or indirectly out of the earnings of the American people....

It appears that more than a fourth part of the stock is held by foreigners and the residue is held by a few hundred of our own citizens, chiefly of the richest class.

Is there no danger to our liberty and independence in a bank that in its nature has so little to bind it to our country? The president of the bank has told us that most of the State banks exist by its forbearance. Should its influence become concentered, as it may under the operation of such an act as this, in the hands of a self-elected directory whose interests are identified with those of the foreign stockholders, will there not be cause to tremble for the purity of our elections in peace and for the independence of our country in war? Their power would be great whenever they might choose to exert it; but if this monopoly were regularly renewed every fifteen or twenty years on terms proposed by themselves, they might seldom in peace put forth their strength to influence elections or control the affairs of the nation. But if any private citizen or public functionary should interpose to curtail its powers or prevent a renewal of its privileges, it can not be doubted that he would be made to feel its influence.

It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government to their selfish purposes. Distinctions in society will always exist under every just government. Equality of talents, of education, or of wealth can not be produced by human institutions. In the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruits of superior industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add to these natural and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society the farmers, mechanics, and laborers who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government. There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing. In the act before me there seems to be a wide and unnecessary departure from these just principles.

Nor is our Government to be maintained or our Union preserved by invasions of the rights and powers of the several States. In thus attempting to make our General Government strong we make it weak. Its true strength consists in leaving individuals and States as much as possible to themselves in making itself felt, not in its power, but in its beneficence; not in its control, but in its protection; not in binding the States more closely to the center, but leaving each to move unobstructed in its proper orbit.

Experience should teach us wisdom. Most of the difficulties our Government now encounters and most of the dangers which impend over our Union have sprung from an abandonment of the legitimate objects of Government by our national legislation, and the adoption of such principles as are embodied in this act. Many of our rich men have not been content with equal protection and equal benefits, but have besought us to make them richer by act of Congress. By attempting to gratify their desires we have in the results of our legislation arrayed section against section, interest against interest, and man against man, in a fearful commotion which threatens to shake the foundations of our Union. It is time to pause in our career to review our principles, and if possible revive that devoted patriotism and spirit of compromise which distinguished the sages of the Revolution and the fathers of our Union. If we can not at once, in justice to interests vested under improvident legislation, make our Government what it ought to be, we can at least take a stand against all new grants of monopolies and exclusive privileges, against any prostitution of our Government to the advancement of the few at the expense of the many, and in favor of compromise and gradual reform in our code of laws and system of political economy....

1835; Jackson withdrawals government’s money from the National Bank. (Federal Reserve)

1836; Jackson pays off national debt by using real money instead of reserve type notes.


14 posted on 10/12/2008 4:13:58 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

We need a war. I mean a REAllY BIG war. Start throwing nukes around and get people’s minds off the economy.


18 posted on 10/12/2008 4:23:09 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Sarah Palin reminds me of the story about David and Goliath)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

In completely unrelated news, Venezuelan scientists announced they have invented a machine that allows the consciousness of Hugo Chavez to take over the minds of other world leaders.


19 posted on 10/12/2008 4:28:49 PM PDT by teethodore
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Hi, I’m Nancy Pelosi. I’m your banker.

The government should leave banking to people who want to make it work.


27 posted on 10/12/2008 4:57:09 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I voted twice for this guy?


28 posted on 10/12/2008 5:05:23 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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If it is from India then it must be true. /sarc


34 posted on 10/12/2008 5:52:01 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Nyet-Bama)
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This analysis is incorrect because ....?

Because an organization that has produced the largest long term operating debt in the history of the planet is now taking greater control of our private US banking system ?

38 posted on 10/13/2008 4:25:21 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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