[Swing_Thought]

The worst part of this is that somehow the label of “conservative” has been tied to Bush, who has not been a conservative at all. So now if you try to sell conservatism to the general public, they think of the big government, borrow and spend policies of Bush and the Republican congress. This has been horrible for the conservative movement.

I couldn't agree more. We have to start making the distinction between big government conservatives and the small government conservatives.

[The Duke]

I think in terms of the Democrat Party and the “Republican wing of the Democrat Party”.