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To: The G Man

Biden says he doesn’t know any plumber’s who make 250k. Nor does he know any store owner, cop yada, yada, yada! Folks, in business 250k a year is nothing when you cosider what you have to pay in unemployment ins., workmans comp and other things that a business has to deal with...


11 posted on 10/16/2008 7:17:37 AM PDT by hope (the socialist msm result is mind-numb O-bots)
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To: hope
A a garage door repairman the alternative to full time employees is doing as much of the work yourself and hiring sub contractors, which most customers don't like to see. They tend to want employees working exclusively for the company they called.

Democrats are dangerously clueless to how things work in the real world.

15 posted on 10/16/2008 7:26:57 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: hope
Folks, in business 250k a year is nothing when you cosider what you have to pay in unemployment ins., workmans comp and other things that a business has to deal with...

I believe the $250K not "gross" income but is net "taxable" income (e.g. $250K after all the expenses and deductions for U.I., workmans comp and "other things that a business has to deal with").

18 posted on 10/16/2008 7:30:36 AM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: hope
in business 250k a year is nothing

My parents used to run a small business and my sister owns a small shop in VA. You're right 250k is nothing. I don't know what Biden was thinking. Or am I asking too much for Biden?
27 posted on 10/16/2008 7:41:18 AM PDT by Henderson (if not 2008, Palin 2012)
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To: hope

“Biden says he doesn’t know any plumber’s who make 250k. Nor does he know any store owner, cop yada, yada, yada! Folks, in business 250k a year is nothing when you cosider what you have to pay in unemployment ins., workmans comp and other things that a business has to deal with...”

Joe is TRYING to divert the subject...which Obama campaign has been good at...until Joe the Plumber! WHAT was said is that Joe the Plumber is a plumber and wants to BUY the company he is working for. Joe just doesn’t get it. And he does look goofy with all that botox. Kind of reminds me of Kerry when he had facial things done before he got his prissy butt kicked by Bush!!!


33 posted on 10/16/2008 7:51:11 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: hope

Biden says he doesn’t know any plumber’s who make 250k. Nor does he know any store owner, cop yada, yada, yada! Folks, in business 250k a year is nothing when you cosider what you have to pay in unemployment ins., workmans comp and other things that a business has to deal with...
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It is true that a quarter million a year is peanuts now in the context of overall revenue of a business but people are failing to be precise about the difference between business revenue and the taxable income of the owner! As a former small business owner I can tell you that a quarter million taxable to the owner is a figure that a large percentage of owners never attain. Listening to Obama, Biden and McCain it is hard to tell which they mean. I think this is one of the biggest things wrong now, this country was founded by men who understood precision in language, they would be dumbfounded to see how words are thrown around now as if flinging mud against the walls. A lot of the arguments going on now are the result of people not being able to communicate clearly or not caring to do so. I know I am often at a loss to say exactly what it was that the candidates really meant to say.
Joe Biden is such a case that I find it amazing that he has been in the Senate so long. Biden seems to have zero concern as to whether what he says is truthful or accurate or makes any sense whatsoever or can be deciphered by the listener.


40 posted on 10/16/2008 7:57:35 AM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: hope
Biden says he doesn’t know any plumber’s who make 250k. Nor does he know any store owner, cop yada, yada, yada! Folks, in business 250k a year is nothing when you cosider what you have to pay in unemployment ins., workmans comp and other things that a business has to deal with...

Well it depends on whether Biden is talking about a plumber working for someone else or a person who owns a plumbing business.He also mentions police,since when is a cop a business? A guy I went to school with has a plumbing business, he is nearing retirement now and hires about 5 people to work for him. He was making over 250,000 years ago. Bozo picked this 250,000 number out of his butt, I would wager that the average small business in the US makes a lot more than 250,000.

45 posted on 10/16/2008 8:18:24 AM PDT by calex59
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