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Election battle shifts to Florida (Dems pouring $40 Million into State)
BBC News ^ | 10/17/08

Posted on 10/17/2008 6:13:09 AM PDT by truthandlife

The rivals for the White House are starting to focus on the key Southern states won by George Bush in 2004, with just 18 days to go before the vote.

John McCain, who is trailing in the opinion polls, must hold Virginia, North Carolina and Florida to have a realistic chance of being elected.

Meanwhile, the Obama campaign is pouring resources into Florida, a state once seen as leaning Republican.

Mr McCain will be in Florida on Friday, while Mr Obama arrives on Monday.

Senator McCain will hold a rally in Miami, hoping to mobilise his support among Cuban-Americans, while Senator Obama will campaign in Tampa on Monday before joining Hillary Clinton for a rally in Orlando, on the first day that postal voting opens in Florida.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: campaignfinance; cubanamericans; election; electionpresident; fl2008; florida; miami; swingstates
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To: Teacher317

OLbama has dumped at least $12 million in FL already and he is still going to lose. Send us another $40 million in ads. We need to volunteer and fight because anything is possible.

Obama must be getting money directly from the Saudis.

The NRA is running ads and McCain/GOP supposedly have $160 million. Rove with a bunch of PACs supposedly has more.


41 posted on 10/17/2008 7:29:43 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: impeachedrapist

“And every election season the “cyberpros” come out of the woodwork.”

And here I thought the purpose of a political internet forum was to discuss...politics. Mindless cheerleading of anything the candidate does is the province of liberals. Conservatives opine based on critical thought.

McCain’s running a lousy campaign, or he wouldn’t be fighting in red states to beat an empty-suited Marxist running on raising taxes and expanding government. This election could have been put away by now if McCain had run smarter. He should have been talking about Ayers and ACORN months ago instead of Britney and Paris.


42 posted on 10/17/2008 7:30:22 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: albie

I’m starting to think that even the $160mm is bogus... nothing more than a headfake


43 posted on 10/17/2008 7:37:38 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: LadyNavyVet
We are opining. Or, I'm sorry, was I supposed to bow in awe of your superior knowledge?

That's right, I forgot. Mindless negative drivel about McCain is "thoughtful discourse", but a person refuting the incessant negativity is "cheerleading anything the candidate does." Got it, thank you.

"McCain's running a lousy campaign." Blah blah blah. Given the political climate for him to even be in this race is nothing short of amazing. He's run a pretty damn fine campaign. And folks like you never hesitate to fret about the red states, but then somehow you omit Obama's trouble with blue states. Like PA, NH, and WI. I'm sure it's simply an oversight. Every time.

No, I don't like everything McCain does or doesn't do. (Heck, I don't even really like the guy.) But I'm also not privy to the information he and his staff have. And I don't for one second think that I could do a better job than they could.

44 posted on 10/17/2008 7:38:20 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: gusopol3

I call utter BeeEssss.


45 posted on 10/17/2008 7:38:27 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
I’m starting to think that even the $160mm is bogus... nothing more than a headfake

Because...?

McCain Camp, RNC to Spend $160 Million in Final Weeks

46 posted on 10/17/2008 7:40:56 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

Florida is my home state. I didn’t realize you were keeping track of the states I opined about. I didn’t realize that we had a Freeper Fairness Doctrine, where I need to say so many good things about McCain before I can point out what he’s doing wrong. What’s the proper ratio?

You don’t have to agree with me. But namecalling me “cyberpro” is an attempt to shut down debate, which is a pretty ridiculous thing to do on an internet forum, the purpose of which is to debate.

Debate me on the points instead of trying to shut me down. If you can.


47 posted on 10/17/2008 7:48:48 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: LadyNavyVet
I see. So I am namecalling, while your "Preaching to the choir isn’t going to cut it" is profound wisdom. :-D

I am more than happy to address any point with you (e.g., your routine omission of Obama's troubles with NH, WI and PA). You may not like what I post, but my posts are filled with data backing up my assertions.

It seems to me you're the one dodging inconvenient issues. Carry on, Cyberpro!

48 posted on 10/17/2008 7:52:57 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

I hate sending money to the RNC. I wish there were a private organization like the Swift Boat or Congressional Club folks that I could send money to.


49 posted on 10/17/2008 7:54:03 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: truthandlife
Every time the DNC pours tons of money into something their are no results...

Kinda like an Angel Investor in the Telsa Electric Car...

50 posted on 10/17/2008 7:56:01 AM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: MSF BU
Here's one for you. They've been running pretty effective anti-Obama ads in NV, CO and MI.

http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/

51 posted on 10/17/2008 7:58:51 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

My “preaching to the choir” was aimed at the McCain campaign, not a fellow Freeper. I never throw the first punch, although I never shy away from throwing the second. I don’t see you do much of anything but throw punches. Give yourself time; most children eventually outgrow cyberbullying.

McCain has solidified the Republican base. He needs to win undecided voters to win the election. Undecided voters aren’t listening to Rush. Obama may be in trouble in NH, although I think he’s safe right now in WI and PA. If the head-to-heads continue to show tightening, that may change.


52 posted on 10/17/2008 8:01:31 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: LadyNavyVet
I don’t see you do much of anything but throw punches.

Of course you don't. You strike me as a perpetual victim. And you do frequently throw punches. Mindless, often uninformed punches at public figures. So I enjoy calling people like you out, because it pisses you off to no end! :-D

If you actually looked at my posts, you'd be inundated with data. But it's not data you want to see, because it actually supports how well McCain is doing during this election. Which gives you less to bitch about.

So unpout your lips and stick your pompous head back in the sand. Somehow the McCain/Palin campaign is going to carry on without your approval/support and without my "mindless cheerleading."

53 posted on 10/17/2008 8:09:42 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist; AmericaUnited
That's one "advisor". No name, just anonymous. That's over a week ago... Where's the empirical evidence to show that it's even started? They said the last 4 weeks. We are about 2 weeks outside of that date, and the ZeroH ads are dwarfing the McCain ads in nearly every market...

Jeez, for a couple of days, I was dumb enough to believe it, and hope that it would be used... Never trust an unnamed source.

54 posted on 10/17/2008 8:37:23 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: impeachedrapist

Victim? LOL! Some of us were barracudas, outsmarting and outworking the old boys’ network, when Sarah was still in High School.

And the reason my posts bother YOU so much is that you can’t refute them. You can only rant about how everything is great, great, great! Well you can stick your fingers in your ears and recite, “La, la, la, la, everything is peachy” all you want, but adults confront problems, not pretend they don’t exist.

I’m at ground zero for this election, I can see what’s going on, and I see the vast differences between 2004 and now. This ain’t Rove’s operation anymore, and it shows.

I live in Central Florida, along the I-4 corridor, the swing part of Florida that McCain must win. South Florida will go for Obama, North Florida will go for McCain. Whoever wins Central Florida wins Florida and McCain has no path to victory that doesn’t include Florida’s 27 electoral votes. Obama doesn’t need Florida, although he’d like it for bragging rights, but McCain must have Florida, or he will lose.

Obama has enough money to pour into Florida almost half the amount that McCain is getting to fund his entire general election campaign and fully one-quarter of the amount that the RNC and McCain have together, to win a state that he DOESN’T EVEN NEED to win the election. Spin that.

Obama has 56 offices open in this state and 150,000 volunteers while the RNC/Victory office closest to my house STILL isn’t even open full time and isn’t returning phone calls from potential volunteers. Spin that. Tell me how it’s good the McCain campaign isn’t answering the phone for people who want to drive old folks to the polls. Tell me how it’s good they’re just beginning to get geared up even though absentee ballots have been out for weeks and early voting starts Monday.

I know people in the FL Rep party. The race is close here, and could go either way. The ground game will make or break this state, and McCain is still walking out onto the field.


55 posted on 10/17/2008 8:41:46 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: NYC Republican

Okay, I see your point. All the articles do seem to trace back to this one anonymous advisor. No, I haven’t seen any empirical evidence that it’s started. Anecdotally, I’ve seen plenty of RNC TV commercials bashing the Obamessiah. I can only say that the $160 million amount seems at least somewhat consistent with the amount of funds they reported as having raised recently.


56 posted on 10/17/2008 8:47:45 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: LadyNavyVet
You can only rant about how everything is great, great, great!

This is what's known as a lie.

Wow, Florida is close and could go either way?!?!? Neato!! Thanks SO much for your keen insight!! I never could have figured that out based on the campaign visits, expenditures, etc.

You're right, if McCain loses FL his quest to the White House takes a major hit. Somehow, I think he and his dumb hick advisors might just understand that without your wisdom and guidance. Oh, if only we had you in charge of the McCain operation in the Sunshine State, then all would truly be well. [cue angel choir]

57 posted on 10/17/2008 8:52:01 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: LadyNavyVet
Sorry, forgot one.

I’m at ground zero for this election

Since you're so much smarter than the campaign and RNC, since you're there at Ground Zero, since you've been outsmarting the dumb good ol' boys for decades, then quit bitching and FIX THE DAMN PROBLEMS, BARRACUDA!!!

58 posted on 10/17/2008 8:56:23 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

I sure hope that’s true... With 2 weeks left, they MUST get their message out and counter the lib lies


59 posted on 10/17/2008 9:24:00 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican

I do recall one other piece of evidence, that a couple of days ago McCain’s camp confirmed TV ad buys in WI through 26 Oct.


60 posted on 10/17/2008 9:52:39 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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