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To: reformedliberal

you say “Even zerO knows there is no way to enforce a total grab”

Ah, but he’s got that covered - He’s going to set up a “Praetorian Guard”

His intention to create a “National Civilian” Police Force
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

(We have the military to protect us from foreign enemies, the Coast Guard for our shores, each state has it’s National Guard and State Police, communities have their police and sheriff’s = the obamination says his new NATIONAL police force will have AS MANY troops as our military and as well funded. (How funded?)

Here’s the number of military as of last year.

2007 (August) 1,380,082

Picture over a million new “NATIONAL POLICE” - OVER 26,500 THOUSAND PER STATE. I guess that would be enough to clamp down on anyone who dared raise their voice... or gun.

Sounds more like a “Praetorian Guard”.)


66 posted on 10/19/2008 8:31:33 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
Just what are the logistics of this, WRT a gun grab?


Enough people inducted by what date? Trained by what date? To search how many houses and out buildings and barns and acres by what means?


I doubt they could do it if they got the laws in place before the rest of us could disappear whatever they might want.


Just who will join his civilian security force? Most of the young voting for him are anti-gun/anti-war/anti-military/anti-LEO/anti-all rules. They can hire thugs from the streets who will steal so much and so corrupt the system that it will not function as they wish. And then, what will they do with us all? Labor/re-education camps? Many of us would welcome that as a place from which to organize a resistance. In America, a Gandhi-type form of civil disobedience would work. I want to see them pry cell phones with video applications from the hands of the youths. They wouldn't disable cell towers, because then how would _they_ communicate? Too many people know how to change the chips and cards in cell phones for a tracking system to work accurately. Clandestine radio communications were possible 75 years ago and could be rebuilt today, if needed.


Now, they can pass and enforce regulations that make ammo expensive and hard to find. They can do the same for black powder and all the tools and supplies needed to reload. However, the Israelis managed in the years of the British blockade to smuggle in tons of old weapons from Europe and, with the aid of talented metalsmiths, they set up firearms factories within months, trained formerly beaten down urban refugees and conducted successful actions against the British and the Arabs.


Just look around your own homestead. I will bet there are many places conducive to a cache that only someone who had spent decades there would even know existed.


There are wild cards. If some nutter tries to assassinate any donk official of high enough stature, it could be a catalyst for sweeping restrictions to the Second. It could not happen so fast that the vast majority of Americans couldn't cope.


My husband is a talented metalsmith with basic equipment to cast and fabricate almost any metal. I asked him if he could build a gun or make the molds for reloading. Building a gun is not a problem, just time-consuming because tolerances need to be precise. Making ammunition molds is more difficult, but he reckoned it could be done. Finding the metals needed is a matter of ingenuity and knowing where to look. Black powder is better bought now and stored, although it can be manufactured, perhaps not as good a quality as is available commercially, but, it would work, most of the time.


I am more worried about scarcity of basic goods, freedom of political speech, assembly and travel. My son, who is in IT, has told me repeatedly that there are many ways to bypass censorship and have anonymous Internet. The radio folks also know how to send and receive with some chance of success bypassing government interference, from what they have told me.


I think we could hold out, if need be. As I have posted before, I do not think they can or will move swiftly to shut us down totally and I do not think we will have a hot CWII.I think zerO will wait until the end of his second term to make any move and we will have changed Congress before then or gone into total resistance mode.


With no producers and fewer consumers and less money in circulation, just where will they get taxes with which to pay their goons or bribe their constituents? They can print all they want, but they will only devalue their own hold on power.

73 posted on 10/19/2008 9:35:12 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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