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To: maine-iac7
While I do appreciate the bump, your idea to vote straight ticket is not the answer we need. Sometimes for some of us voting straight ticket puts a corrupt republican or RINO back in office. BLAH!

We need to understand we didn't get here overnight. One election isn't going to change things.

We need to accept these folks are not the moonbats we'd like them to be. They are and have been highly organized and highly motivated for decades. Many of us will date that back to the 1960’s, but I would say it is much longer than that. The 1960’s were the symptoms of the ‘new generation.’ It wasn't concocted by them, but by others. Others enamored with ‘progressive pragmatism.’

My point(s) being we have let the left define conservatism, instead of us defining it. We thought the Constitution would suffice...until we met them. This battle will be fought for generations to come as it took generations to become entrenched in our culture.

They had a mandate, http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm , and they have largely succeeded.

We lack the organization. We view our Right of protest etc. as something to be disdained instead of used. How often here on FR I read responses that conservatives don't do that. Horrors we should exercise a Right that only belongs to the left! (Get it...we've given away a Right.)

Do we really need to talk about Free Speech? We let them define what is ‘free speech.’

We let them define what is fair! We all know we want rules to apply to everyone equally, but that isn't fair.

A Freeper posted last week how we define capitalism:
We conservatives prefer our fairness to be defined by everyone playing by the same rules. If some people come out better than others then it's usually a matter of who worked harder, or smarter; that's the way a ‘free’ economy works.

But liberals tend to define fairness as being in place, when the results for everyone come out the same, regardless of the effort each party puts in.

First we must agree to stop them from defining us. We must decide to become organized, not just for a day, but for generations to come. We need to set a strategy to bring back the Republic, not republican party, the Republic. Then, and only then will we begin to be ready to fight the required civic battle. I don't know if we have those kind of leaders. I honestly don't know if we know how at this point.

Palin might be one. Might.

79 posted on 10/19/2008 4:11:14 PM PDT by EBH ( Welcome to the United Socialist States of America. Oct. 1, 2008)
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To: EBH
Great remarks EBH -- really made me think. First we must agree to stop them from defining us. We must decide to become organized... Then, and only then will we begin to be ready to fight the required civic battle. I don't know if we have those kind of leaders.

Yes, "those" leaders exists. Just as yesterday and pray, tomorrow. The enigma of identifying them is part of what you've just posted. The mass of the media and "power centers " are not interested in bringing them to anyones attention. We cannot let our opponents define us, or declare those who represent us.

If this election goes to Obama with a 60 plus Democratic senate there will be a unique opportunity for REFORM within the Republican Party or creation of a new viable national opposition party.

True Constitutional defenders exist today among our states politicians, business community, legal profession, and the military. But altruism is powerless in politics, just look at the Constitution Party or Libertarian Party. How to (re)build a successful supportive national party with great representatives, especially in this hostile environment, is the real problem. Any ideas?

82 posted on 10/19/2008 8:54:32 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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