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To: TalBlack
You've got the cart before the horse. Culture drives what these guys can get away with.

I understand that culture drives what these guys can get away with. That is a good observation. Sadly, with an "enabling" culture, you end up in a downward spiral, which you are adeptly pointing out.

On a technical side, a culture is nothing more than the sum of the behaviours of its individuals. To change the culture,you need to change the behaviour of individuals. In some cases, that means applying the existing law. In other cases, it means writing new laws. Nonetheless, this disagreement we might be having is secondary. We both acknowledge that this is a class of cultures and that now is the time to step up our attack.

Thanks for replying and explaining yourself. I greatly appreciate your view -- and it will help me in future discussions with moderates!

53 posted on 10/22/2008 9:35:21 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mlocher
“We both acknowledge that this is a class of cultures and that now is the time to step up our attack.”

“Know thy enemy” Your efforts against the left are traditional in nature and would be effective against Hubert Humphrey or Geo. McGovern. Against despise-rs of America and the rule of Law you will be used or ignored as possible until they go too far. The great thing about these people is that they WILL go too far. All you have to do is live your life and wait until that signal moment comes-—then, suddenly you will have a million angry brothers. The moment, should Obama win, will arrive BEFORE the passing of two years from the moment of his taking the oath. (Indeed he may not get much farther than the first few Executive orders before the shite hits the fan). In any event I don't see him lasting four years as Carter did. It isn't 1976 anymore, and indeed, Obama is far angrier, more ignorant and arrogant than ‘Jimmah’.

For the record, I'll be a bit surprised if McCain loses.

57 posted on 10/22/2008 12:48:45 PM PDT by TalBlack
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