Posted on 10/22/2008 10:32:46 AM PDT by sitetest
Edited on 10/22/2008 10:42:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
What will people here do if the AP poll shows O opening up a big lead in the next few days?
The rest of the world will be disappointed, that the messiah is fading 1% at a time.
Here’s my response to a similar thought:
I do agree a game is afoot, but these polls show that Obama’s huge lead can’t be substantiated by “all” the major polls. Every time the MSM shouts their poll results, along comes a major poll seriously challenging the MSM template.
I suggest that Biden’s comments will have an impact on the next round of polls.
Interesting thought.
I haven’t tuned in yet.
God knows I hope so! On a positive note! As I write, My daughters are at the McCain Palin rally at Lunken airport in Cincinnati. It is only about 10 minutes from my office and I had a ticket, but unfortunately I can not get away. Even if I could it is probably too crowded to get in.
Gates opened at 3:30 PM. She called me at 4PM and told me there were likely 10,000 people already there. The event did not start until 5PM. She just called me at 6:10PM to tell me that McCain and Sarah have not come on yet, but that there were, in her best guess, 20,000 people! She should have a feel for this by now as she was at the last 2 Palin rallies in the Cincinnati area.
Folks, this was only arranged 3 days ago and admittance was by ticket only! Keep the faith. This election ain't over yet!
bttt
Carter and Regan were even on election day! That turned out well for us now didn’t it!
I believe McPalin will win handily. Here are the under-reported reasons I have collected visiting FR way too much.
1) “Polls” that show Obama ahead tell a different story when internals are studied. Please see http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/an-eeyore-free-zone for a primer on how polls are cooked. UPDATE: Rasmussen saying McCain ahead in Florida and Ohio.
And now, a brief history lesson of ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS:
1980: Reagan 50.75%, Carter 41%, (+9.75 Reagan) Reagan won 45 states.
1984: Regan 58.77%, Mondale 40.56% (+18.21 Regan) Reagan won 49 states.
1988: Bush 53.37%, Dukakis 45.65% (+7.72 Bush) Bush won 42 states.
1992: Clinton 43.01%, Bush 37.45%, Perot 18.91% (+5.66% Clinton) Clinton won 30 states.
1996: Clinton 49.23%, Dole 40.72%, Perot 8.40% (+8.49% Clinton) Clinton won 31 states.
2000: Bush 47.87%, Gore 48.38% (Gore +0.49%) Bush won 30 states.
2004: Bush 50.73%, Kerry 48.27% (Bush +2.46%) Bush won 31 states.
NO WAY is Obama up 14 points!
2) Hillary and Bill are not acting like they want Obama to win, since she wants to run again in 2012, despite what she alludes to.
3) “Hussein” being Obama’s middle name is still news to most people.
4) A picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim (there are at least three) is still worth 1000 words (3000 in this case). Man your email station! Post bills!
5) The PUMAs who know the hows and whys of Hillary getting cheated, will vote Palin, and will pull others. Check out http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=33711&page=3 and http://democrats-against-obama.org
6) “[Bitter Clingers] to [Religion and Guns]”, will vote McCain, so much so that 22K of the 45K in Grand Junction, Colorado came out to see her http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110920/posts.
7) The Palins ARE America and the conservative base. America and the conservative base will vote accordingly. According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2106836/posts parts of the country that were not fired up about the election, are working for Palin. She draws THOUSANDS at every campaign stop.
8) The NRA has “8 figures” of ads to unload in “swing” states
9) At one point, Obama was only 5 points up in New York! New York!
10) The Democrats were talking about Democratic consultants freaking out over Obama mis-managing his campaign before they settled into poll alteration.
11) The Enemedia is already spreading the meme that if Obama loses, it “is racism”. They see the tea leaves ...
12) The Media was calling the election for Kerry ELECTION MORNING in 2004, and Carter and Reagan polled evenly on election day! SOMEONE is trying to buffalo us with these polls! For more on the history of polls leaning Democrat, please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106669/posts Both Zogby and Mike McCurry predicted a Kerry win.
13) McCain has only started to play the Ayers card. McCain has not yet played the Tony Rezko, Odinga, ... more at http://www.barackbook.com
14) Plenty of long-time Democratic voters are unimpressed with Obama, and will not vote for him. Two midwestern transplants have volunteered to me that they know lifelong Democrats who WILL NOT vote for Obama. The 1st hand accounts here on Free Republic about lack of enthusiasm for Obama relative to Kerry similarly bodes poorly for Obama.
15) Obama has only 60% of the Jewish vote last I checked, compared to the 75% Kerry got (comfortable R win), and the 90% Gore got (close R win). Please see http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_and_the_jewish_vote.php and http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08293/921167-470.stm
16) The Christian base that re-elected Bush in 2004, knows Sarah is more than a Sunday Christian, and is praying for her.
17) McCain opened 50 offices in California. It’s in play! It should be the bluest of the blue, and it is not.
18) Google “Bradley Effect”. Obama is getting poll votes he’ll never get on election day. PUMAs have also agreed to lie to pollsters about supporting Obama, and are encouraging others to do so.
19) Operation Chaos resulted in an overlarge quantity of Democrat registrations that will never ever vote Democratic.
20) Obama’s “spread the wealth” line to Joe the Plumber will cost him undecideds not ready to etch the current class structure in stone.
21) The Enemedia overstating Obama’s popularity will cut two ways. The lazy, and the youth, (core Democrat constituencies) will not brave traffic and lines to vote on election day, since they were lied to by the KGBMedia to believe that Obama has a gigantic lead.
22) There is a group playing Jeremiah Wrights ads. Read more about it http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2108462/posts, and to donate visit https://www.completecampaigns.com/FR/contribute.asp?campaignid=OCDBPac.
23) The Obama crew already knows they’re going to lose. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110803/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2103037/posts
24) Kerry won the Nickelodeon kids vote 57/43, and Obama won it 51/49! If you don’t think kids vote like their parents, then you got another thing coming! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110843/posts
25) Polls are meant by the Enemedia, to SHAPE public opinion, not to accurately report it.
Fellow Freepers, please feel free to post this list every time you see a Freeper or anyone feeling down, anywhere. No need to credit me or ping or write me.
If you do start spreading this list, it might not be bad for you to check back for updates since Freepers are always kindly giving feedback to this list.
Let me know if you have any other under-reported reasons for the coming McCain/Palin win.
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Please tell me if you think there are mistakes.
Drudge is a ding dong....
For me it’s all done. I voted last Thursday...
PING!!!
The problem is that the AP does not have a good track record at all. All the polls with a good track record are showing O ahead. It seems that people here are in denial.
It seems that people here are in denial.
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It’s called “experience” with major polls showing Kerry and Gore way ahead only to be profoundly wrong. That’s a fact.
That is not really true. A poll here or there, maybe. But in 2000, all polls predicted a close race. In 2004, most polls showed Bush ahead, only a couple showed Kerry ahead. So the majority of the polls were correct in both years as to the overall picture of the race.
There is not a single poll that currently shows McCain ahead, and so there is really no basis to believe he will not lose.
Leading up to 2004 and 2000 we had polls showing Kerry with large leads almost up to election day. Freepers have recently posted them on FR to remind us. In fact, remember the exit polls that had Kerry early in the day going to win. Sorry, but I remember those days and not I’m buying it.
This nonsense can be debunked by one look at the polls leading up to 2004 (see the link below). Please show me polls with large Kerry leads in this. Also notice how there is a chorus of polls showing Bush consistently ahead:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry_hth.html
This nonsense can be debunked by one look at the polls leading up to 2004 (see the link below). Please show me polls with large Kerry leads in this. Also notice how there is a chorus of polls showing Bush consistently ahead:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry_hth.html
Better to have riots than 0bama as POTUS elect.
You need to check out Drudge’s site on what the most accurate poll in 2004 says:
It’s all tied up my friend.
I haven’t seen very many Obama signs or McCain signs this year. I’m in Northern Virginia, which is being worked heavily by both sides. Last election, I saw a ton of Kerry signs. I don’t know what to make of it — I know Obama will do very well in Northern Virginia. Why no signs?
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