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To: Hemorrhage
If conservatives truly believe the United States is an exceptional nation under God Well less than half of Americans attend any sort of regular worship--and likely less than half of the churchgoers really see themselves under God and therefore exceptional...what of that?

, that Capitalism is an exceptional economic model Since Social Security (i.e. the dole) all Americans assume big government, not Capitalism, will be the mechanism to provide for our needs--except for what are considered loony libertarian types---everyone....liberal to the most conservative--assume Government should exercise far more power in citizens' lives than our Founders ever dreamed of...

, that the American Constitution is an exceptional form of government Since the Civil War, and especially since FDR, America has eviscerated her Constitution--primarily by allowing Judges and Justices to legislate, and by allowing our legislators to ignore the 10th Ammendment--which alone limited government to what the Constitution says it should do... Only a very naive idealist believes America is actually constitutional today.

, that the American people are rugged individualists derived from the American pioneering spirit The biggest remnant of rugged individualists found are in Alaska...one of the reasons the elites hate Palin so much--but even Alaskan government sends checks to their citizens, an archetype of socialism, and totally contra-capitalism.... "rugged individualism" is dead and buried in most of America.

then conservatives must come to the conclusion that America will endure, as we have for the last 220 years.

Given the reality, vs. the idealism, above, I believe you are very wrong--particularly since we are very close now to electing a serious fascist as President.

63 posted on 10/23/2008 11:46:23 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

>> Well less than half of Americans attend any sort of regular worship—and likely less than half of the churchgoers really see themselves under God and therefore exceptional ...

The question is ... do YOU see the country as exceptional?

>> Since Social Security (i.e. the dole) all Americans assume big government, not Capitalism, will be the mechanism to provide for our needs—except for what are considered loony libertarian types-—everyone....liberal to the most conservative—assume Government should exercise far more power in citizens’ lives than our Founders ever dreamed of...

I think you’re wrong. “Joe the Plumber” would not he working this well if we were truly the nanny-state country you make us out to be.

>> Since the Civil War, and especially since FDR, America has eviscerated her Constitution—primarily by allowing Judges and Justices to legislate, and by allowing our legislators to ignore the 10th Ammendment—which alone limited government to what the Constitution says it should do... Only a very naive idealist believes America is actually constitutional today.

I believe we have certainly strayed in some respects, but that fundamental respect for the Constitution remains in the American population. The only way these changes have been made is by judicial fiat — not by democratic means. The population is largely not on board. Fundamentally, this means all of it can be undone.

>> The biggest remnant of rugged individualists found are in Alaska...one of the reasons the elites hate Palin so much—but even Alaskan government sends checks to their citizens, an archetype of socialism, and totally contra-capitalism.... “rugged individualism” is dead and buried in most of America.

Again, Joe the Plumber. There are rugged individualists throughout this country — they drive the economy.

>> Given the reality, vs. the idealism, above, I believe you are very wrong—particularly since we are very close now to electing a serious fascist as President.

(1) We survived Carter, and we’d survive Obama. And, one could argue without Carter presenting the stark model of liberalism, we’d never have gotten Reagan’s model of conservatism.

(2) Even if Obama wins, he’s not winning by running as a liberal. He’s running on tax cuts and further intervention in Afghanistan. And, Obama has been torn apart for the one “redistribution of wealth” slip up he made to Joe. You can easily tell that conservatism is the prevailing ideology simply because liberals refuse to run on liberal rhetoric.

Perhaps my faith in my country to withstand difficulties foreign and domestic is idealistic. But, my idealism is justified. We’ve risen to the occasion before to overcome fascism, Naziism, Soviet Communism, slavery, and the Great Depression. This test is FAR less imposing than ANY of those ... thus, I am confident that we’ll do it again.

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64 posted on 10/23/2008 12:04:42 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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