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Do You Feel The Fear? [Riots, civil war and insurection]
Townhall ^ | October 26, 2008

Posted on 10/26/2008 4:17:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Jim Noble; sobieski; wardaddy

wardaddy makes a good point:
- .223 is suitable for up to 100-300m depending on configuration.
- .308 is suitable for up to 1000m.

Take a realistic assessment of your environment. Personally, my needs max out around 40m, unless I’m actually standing in the street (dumb) where it goes to maybe 150m. Some Freepers (living in, say, Wyoming) have visibility ranging in the miles. Choose your tools accordingly.


201 posted on 10/27/2008 7:05:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: FreedomPoster

I watched a young black couple, on HGTV, search for a home near Atlanta with a $500,000 dollar price tag. There is equality in this “one nation under God”. There is not the hate perpetuated by the MSM.

We need to ride this out and see what happens.

However, I have no fear. Truth will win. I may die in the process, but that is no matter.

The hatred written about in the “yellow press” which has become the mainstream press is a lie. Newspapers are dying this moment because we, the citizens, do not believe their lies.

We will win.


202 posted on 10/27/2008 7:11:23 AM PDT by wizr (No matter the vote. We receive what we deserve. Keep God close during these trying times.)
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To: wizr

I’ve played tennis in predominantly black neighborhoods filled with houses like that. With late model SUVs, Mercedes, and Lexuses in the driveways.


203 posted on 10/27/2008 7:33:05 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
"Why does Ruger always get the short shrift? Along with Eugene Stoner, Bill Ruger has been one of the greatest firearms innovater of the past 50 years."

He didn't. We could go on and on with names like Savage, & Winchester & Kimber & Beretta & Walther & Springfield & Benelli & Taurus & Marlin & Remington...and on and on... They are all our friends...both foreign & domestic.

204 posted on 10/27/2008 7:34:45 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks FreedomPoster! Well done.


205 posted on 10/27/2008 8:30:47 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
Why does Ruger always get the short shrift? Because some people have problems/issues with the Ruger Mini-14 Rifle. Well it's a bit weird to write off a whole company because of one bad product. Mini-14s can be made to work, lots of people have 'em and like 'em. But even if you write off the Mini-14 as junk there are still a lot of great, totally classic Ruger guns. The Blackhawks restarted the single action cowboy boom, the original Ruger .22 semi-auto pistol; the Ruger 10-22 - (a great cheap .22 semi auto that doesn't jam), the Redhawk and Super Redhawk - hell-for-stout double action revolvers; good bolt action rifles, etc.

My P-90 DC ins't the nicest looking gun but it goes BANG every time, appears nearly indestructable, is a cinch to field strip, and is almost as accurate as my Kimber 1911. Only it cost 2/3 of the price. Thats Ruger in a nutshell.

206 posted on 10/27/2008 9:22:11 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: waxer1
Read this post to see, "How's that?

Cincinnatus.45-70 Post 78

207 posted on 10/27/2008 9:51:43 AM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: Jack Black

What’s “DC”?


208 posted on 10/27/2008 10:00:08 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Well, the Garand is tough to beat but the types of "riots" I'd expect would be like the Katrina lawlessness: organized violent patrols going through neighborhoods with snipers in overwatch.

If 'the system' breaks down and power and water fail -watchout. The media will be spamming that it's racist, rural whites who are responsible for the lack of food and electricty in the cities and that's why the suburbs have to be seized. Just like declining public services in Cuba and now Venezuela everything will be blamed on the "counter-revolutionaries" -and you already know who those are.

209 posted on 10/27/2008 10:05:42 AM PDT by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ready on point, Sir!


210 posted on 10/27/2008 12:39:24 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: silentreignofheroes
Do not feel any fear around here,just the knowledge that if Obama is elected this Country is in trouble.I’ve been thinking that if The Constitution is trashed then individual States are not obligated to stay in that particular Union.

You miss the point entirely: if ANY of the constitutional provisions are abrogated, then the entire constitutional contract between government and the people is corrupt, null and void; that's a basic fundamental of contract law. And Article VI, Section 4 promises that: The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

It's very simple, really: if the constitution is breeched or abrogated, then trhe political entity created by it- the United States of America no longer has any lawful aurthority. Constitutions of the states differ, and though those in Washington who would attempt to continue rule following their coup d'etat will loudly proclaim their legitimacy, they will in fact have none.

211 posted on 10/27/2008 1:14:33 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: ctdonath2
Some Freepers (living in, say, Wyoming) have visibility ranging in the miles. Choose your tools accordingly. But seasonal conditions can also be a consideration, as does the potential duration of expected troubles, much less unanticipated conditions that result from cascading entrophy over a longer term.
212 posted on 10/27/2008 1:44:35 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

Like I said: choose your tools appropriately.


213 posted on 10/27/2008 2:03:01 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: archy

Reckon I did miss the point.

Thanks for the links.I’ve learned alot at this site,some put up with me , some don’t.

For some reason I think this Election will go our way.


214 posted on 10/27/2008 3:09:11 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Should have seen it in color.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
...Ruger makes a lot of great guns...

I have a Ruger 10/22 .22 LR Rifle that I put a 4x scope on, and also have a Ruger MKII .22LR Pistol. Both GREAT guns. Have read plenty of good stuff about every other Ruger Rifle or handgun.

It's just that the Mini-14 seems to have some issues with accuracy from my reading on the Internet. But as you said, many like it. Also it is a conventional stock rifle (important in some circumstances where having an evil black assault gun would weigh heavily against you) and is 1/2 the cost of an AR.

215 posted on 10/27/2008 3:28:19 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Jack Black
Why does Ruger always get the short shrift? Because some people have problems/issues with the Ruger Mini-14 Rifle.

Well it's a bit weird to write off a whole company because of one bad product. Mini-14s can be made to work, lots of people have 'em and like 'em. But even if you write off the Mini-14 as junk there are still a lot of great, totally classic Ruger guns. The Blackhawks restarted the single action cowboy boom, the original Ruger .22 semi-auto pistol; the Ruger 10-22 - (a great cheap .22 semi auto that doesn't jam), the Redhawk and Super Redhawk - hell-for-stout double action revolvers; good bolt action rifles, etc.

My P-90 DC ins't the nicest looking gun but it goes BANG every time, appears nearly indestructable, is a cinch to field strip, and is almost as accurate as my Kimber 1911. Only it cost 2/3 of the price. Thats Ruger in a nutshell.

I totally agree with everything you said. Sorry that I sounded like I came down on the whole line of Ruger firearms.

216 posted on 10/27/2008 3:35:06 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Lancey Howard; humblegunner

Better Pic.

217 posted on 10/27/2008 5:07:01 PM PDT by Eaker (Dutch expression "You can give a monkey a gold ring, but it stays an ugly thing." - EscapedDutch)
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To: ctdonath2

Is it prudent to get an extra firearm now, given that the Feds check it and it could remain on a database? Or is it better to simply purchase more ammo?


218 posted on 10/27/2008 6:12:10 PM PDT by sobieski
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To: dfwgator

More cowbell!


219 posted on 10/27/2008 6:39:15 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: sobieski

If you’re already on their lists, you’re on their lists. Adding another won’t be a big deal. Be realistic about how many you need, and realize that with moderate care each should outlast your kid’s kids.

Ammo is a consumable. Use it, it’s gone. Hints are that they’ll go after ammo more this time, knowing that guns last forever, but are useless without the consumables to feed them. Buy what you can as soon as you can: prices will only go up, restrictions will only increase, the stuff lasts forever.

I don’t anticipate outright confiscation. It has only been tried a couple times in the last 20+ years (Waco & Ruby Ridge, NOLA), and the political cost was terrible. It cannot be inflicted on millions.

I do anticipate gradual tightening of restrictions designed to drive businesses under (as was started so effectively under Clinton). There are, really, rather few ammo manufacturers - and I mean _components_ (jacketed bullets, powder, shells, primers - stuff almost nobody can make); creative regulation could shut down civilian sales via taxation, transport & storage restrictions, insurance requirements, and outright sale to civvies.


220 posted on 10/28/2008 6:35:22 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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