Posted on 10/27/2008 9:29:28 AM PDT by crymeariver
Are you all so young, so new to this, that you have no memory?
Not to be critical of my fellow Freepers, but you're all running around with your heads cut off.
Why? Because this was originally a conservative Republican e-mail chain letter. None of the facts in this revised liberal version are true!
We ought to properly refute this chain letter with the original, the one that was published more that four (4) years ago. Refute lies with Truth.
It's really pretty sad that a hate-filled liberal changed the original letter around: We're paying most of the taxes. Most of the wrecked and ruined Democratic strongholds--those areas governed by Democrats, mired in poverty and hopelessness--are in the Blue areas.
And the divorce rate? An outright lie. Ours is lower. You don't seek single Christian crack moms in Kansas, but you do see plenty of single crack moms (non-Christian) in Oakland (California, a Red State).
Charitable giving is higher in the red areas. A study was done some years back that verified what we already knew: in traditional Christian parts of the country, charitable giving is much higher, as is the spirit of volunteerism, and enlistment in our nation's military.
And that joke about them having 2/3 of the tax revenue? Give me a break! They receive 2/3 of the welfare in the Blue States, and we all know it.
Are you all so young, so new to this, that you have no memory?
Not to be critical of my fellow Freepers, but you're all running around with your heads cut off.
Why? Because this was originally a conservative Republican e-mail chain letter. None of the facts in this revised liberal version are true!
We ought to properly refute this chain letter with the original, the one that was published more that four (4) years ago. Refute lies with Truth.
It's really pretty sad that a hate-filled liberal changed the original letter around: We're paying most of the taxes. Most of the wrecked and ruined Democratic strongholds--those areas governed by Democrats, mired in poverty and hopelessness--are in the Blue areas.
And the divorce rate? An outright lie. Ours is lower. You don't seek single Christian crack moms in Kansas, but you do see plenty of single crack moms (non-Christian) in Oakland (California, a Red State).
Charitable giving is higher in the red areas. A study was done some years back that verified what we already knew: in traditional Christian parts of the country, charitable giving is much higher, as is the spirit of volunteerism, and enlistment in our nation's military.
And that joke about them having 2/3 of the tax revenue? Give me a break! They receive 2/3 of the welfare in the Blue States, and we all know it.
First, thanks to you lefties for legitimizing this notion. We may need it, and appreciate your approval in advance.
>>You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
Thanks for letting us have all the oil (and food). What exactly do you purpose to trade with us to get what you need? With the revenue from selling you food and oil, we will have plenty to build and monitor a wall to keep you out.
>>We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.
Our hard currency will buy us easy admission to Lady Liberty compared to the “Rubles” you will be stuck with.
>>We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
What makes you think we can’t write our own code and design our own chips, and that the best and brightest from your zone wouldn’t prefer unfettered economic freedom to third-world socialism?
>>We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss.
You can keep Harvard.
>>We get 85% of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama.
Our free market will suck away any remaining smart capital.
>>We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.
Without funding your socialist welfare, transit boondoggles, corrupt scams and worse, we’ll have plenty of dough for the few things that need to be done by government. Without the attractive handouts, we won’t even need that wall to keep the deadbeats out, since they’ll be fleeing to your socialist paradise. You’ll have to shoot to kill to keep your ambitious, hard-working folks in your zone.
>>Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.
Without confiscatory tax rates and business stifling regulation, our families will stay together because only one parent will need to work.
>>Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war. We are going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home.
You seem to think that the disproportionately few soldiers from Blue cities were drafted.
>>We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire.
Understood. You’ll need to militarize even more to keep your productive citizens from fleeing.
>>With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the country’s fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95% of America’s quality wines, 90% of all cheese, 90% of the high tech industry, 95% of the corn and soybeans (thanks Iowa!), most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.
Whatever will we do without your pineapples? By the way, those crops are mostly grown in rural California and Wisconsin. Those are conservative areas, and you’ll probably need to take them by force, Zimbabwe style. If you drew lines that represented the will of the people, you would lose California’s Central valley to the conservatives. It’s filled with them. Your areas would stop about at the city limits.
>>With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92% of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
When we make people responsible for their own health care, they’ll work out their obesity problems. And without the post-disaster welfare your big government pushes, we’ll address the cost of disaster privately, with insurance that reflects the true risks. Enjoy the earthquakes!
>>We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
You can have Hollywood, but Yosemite is outside of the Blue zone, I’m afraid to report.
>>Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy people believe you have higher moral standards then we lefties.
When we expel all the leftist anti-religious bigot teachers from our schools, we’ll do just fine in the education and intelligence front. Oh, and life is sacred. We only go to war to defend innocent life and liberty. We execute those who kill the innocent. And on gun laws, that’s to defend innocent life as well. But the people of our various states will be able to choose what laws they want, as long as they meet the Constitutional tests.
Oh, and we will keep the old Constitution, but precedent by the SCOT(old)US will be non-binding, so we can get things back on track.
Don’t let the door hit you in the behind, lefties!
RE: “You don’t seek single Christian crack moms in Kansas, but you do see plenty of single crack moms (non-Christian) in Oakland (California, a Red State).”
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WHAT? California a “red state?” Obviously this is a BIG ERROR AND MUST BE CORRECTED. CA has not been a “red state in EONS!” BLUE STATE ALL THE WAY — THOUGH THE CENTRAL VALLEY IS STILL FAIRLY “RED.”
WE HAVE FORT KNOX!
Good luck living off pineapple, lettuce, wine and cheese.
I’m so sorry, really.
I’ll keep you in my prayer, my FRiend.
Only shoot those who can't defend themselves.
We get all the nuclear weapons in ICBMs. We get all of the armored divisions. We get Norfolk and the bulk of the Atlantic Navy. We get Texas and Alaska (all the oil). We get the bulk of the bread basket.
85% of capital? Watch how fast that money migrates when you idiots start your socalist state and $$$ has a viable alternative move towards.
Why bother responding to this stupidity? The states are economically, socially and culturally linked to a large extent. Splitting the country up would be a recipe for disaster for all parties involved.
Could you post the original?
Was that a German Panzer? What was it if I may ask?
I was just sticking with the orginal state-focused theme. I’m not sure that even liberals would be stupid enough to only wall off the blue counties and seceed.
Sauron, The divorce rate in the northeast and upper midwest is considerably lower thank that of the south and interior west. The south actually has the highest rate of divorce in the nation.
Um...ok. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord done split ya.
To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
And how exactly do you plan on getting to these beaches? Riding a bike? It will be interesting to observe what novel ways you will come up with to generate electricity, fuel your vehicles and obtain water. The dams that provide the majority of California's water are in those pesky red states and seeing as we no longer need to water California we can do the ecologically prudent thing and free the Colorado river. As for electricity you will have to pave over every square inch of land with wind generators and solar panels to power California and as we all know the wind and sun are not around 24/7. We would be under no moral or legal obligation to provide you with anything.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.
That is OK-we get Mount Rushmore, the Rockies, the great plains and vast majority of the commodities and the wherewithal to produce them. It will be awful hard for your farmers to run their equipment using ethanol because it will come down to a choice of food or fuel for you. On the bright side for you, you get Detroit, Chicago and all the rest of the economic basket case states.
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
Those companies will leave your utopia. Why? One they need alot of electricity to operate and without the electricity coming from those coal fired plants in the red states your new bleu country would be one big rolling black out. Second they are in the business of making money and in case you haven't noticed businesses are bailing out of the bleu states in droves because of the high taxes and nannyism.
We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.
Fantastic! You get the liberal madrassas and we get the colleges and universities that are actually doing things besides staring at their navel. We will also have the best medical research facilities.
We get 85% of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama.
They won't stay in your precious "bleu country" for long. They are not in those businesses for the "common good", they are in it to make money and your precious "bleu country" will make France look like a bastion of economic freedom. Besides, your "bleu country" won't have much to offer them except arrogance.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.
We get to quit paying to support you and your stupid ideas finally. And, to top it off, we will be under no obligation to provide you with anything. You will now have to buy everything on the open market-food, fuel, electricity, etc. And you will have to figure out how to get stuff around your little lumps of country, we would be under no obligation to let you fly through our airspace, use our telecommunication lines, roads or railroads. This has been tried before, you know. Bangladesh was at one time East Pakistan and before that was a part of the Bengal of India. You should learn from that one.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.
In order to get divorced one has to get married first. You get to have the majority of the drug addicts.
Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war. We are going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once.
Fine by us. You may find that in the end Trotsky was right in saying "You may not have an interest in war, but war has an interest in you." You will also find that having protests, rock concerts and drum circles are rather ineffective against an invasion. You won't have to worry about us-you will have to worry about Mexico.
They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home.
You won't have to worry about "your children's caskets coming home", your children will die right in front of you. But look on the bright side, at least burying them will have a much smaller "carbon footprint".
We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.
Yawn...Try some new talking points.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines, 90% of all cheese, 90% of the high tech industry, 95% of the corn and soybeans (thanks Iowa!), most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT. Lets pick this statement apart, shall we?
As to all your "commodities" you listed...How exactly do you plan on getting them to market? Transporter technology? And you should not assume that Hawaii would be yours for long, China or Japan may just decide to take it seeing as it is undefended. People of your ilk seem to forget that the world is not one big happy bunnyland. One other thing, how are you going to water all those fruit trees and crops in the central valley of California? We would be under no obligation to provide you with that water. We can get citrus and other fruits and vegetables year round from Florida and Texas.
As to your "high tech industries"...Those industries require alot of electricity and freedom from cumbersome and unnecessary regulations to operate. Where are you going to get the electricity from? Solar and wind? Good luck on getting your environmental regulators to allow the paving over of every square inch of your lands with solar and wind generators.
As to the wines...Wine is a fungible commodity as the French have learned. One is not required to buy California wines, in fact there are much better wines out there. I, for one, have never bought a bottle of California wine-I prefer Italian reds. Besides, you keep forgetting that you will have no trade treaty with us which means that tariffs can be imposed on your precious wines and other goods and services. Also, how are you going to get those wines to market? Transporter technology?
As to your comment about coal...Your environmentalists will not allow you to burn that coal nor continue to mine it. That would make a very large "carbon footprint". Plus you would have to build the plants to burn it and I can see all of you going NIMBY over that one.
As to your madrassas...err...colleges...Big deal. You seem to think that they are the only ones in the country. Here is one little newsflash for you. The premier school for nanotechnology is not MIT-it is Emory. I know that one-my nephew ditched a full scholarship at MIT for nanotechnology to go to Emory because they are the leaders in that research. The premier school for cancer research is not Stanford or Cal Tech-it is the University of Texas. And, you always seem to forget that you and those schools will be operating under vastly reduced budgets because we won't be funding them.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
You can certainly have Hollywood, they produce nothing that anyone needs. As to Yosemite you can have it. We will have the Grand Canyon and will get Glen Canyon back because we won't need that dam to provide California with water anymore. Not only that but we will have the best skiing while you have Cascade concrete, Sierra cement and the icy runs of the New England states. Remember that you will not be allowed to have free travel to the red states anymore-you will be foreigners and will require visas and I am sure that there would be strict laws governing "illegal aliens".
Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy people believe you have higher moral standards then we lefties.
History teaches that countries with the belief system you have have a very short life. You either whither on the vine, break apart do to lack of cohesion or are over run because they are weak and will not defend themselves.
I keep hearing this, but no one has ever been able to provide proof.
You have a vast majority of all violent crime.
7 out of the the top 10 states with the worst crime rates are Red States. South Carolina has the highest violent crime rate in the country, not counting DC.
We have the national treasure, and they have the national debt. Sweet!
Not really. Generally speaking, the poorer states receive more welfare payments, per capita, then the richer states, and the richer staes all tend to be blue.
Also, let's not forget that red states tend to receive more from the federal treasury (in Mississippi's case, twice as much) as they put in.
Dear commies -
how long do you think the entrepeneurs and venture capitalists would remain in your socialist workers’ paradise before they came to the free states of America?
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