Posted on 10/29/2008 10:27:52 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
It looks like there might be some truth to those rumors former Mitt Romney supporters are already trying to clear Sarah Palin from the GOP presidential deck to make room for their man Mitt in 2012.
Former Romney Spokesman Kevin Madden was particularly harsh on Palin in an interview on CNN. His criticism of Palin is especially noteworthy because we're only days from the election.
In a spot with Campbell Brown Madden said Palin's wardrobe flap showed how "unseasoned" Palin is.
BROWN: And, Kevin, even defending this whole controversy over the clothes, the RNC buying all the clothing, it keeps the story going, and, as Dana pointed out, one more day where it's dominating the coverage.
KEVIN MADDEN, FORMER ROMNEY CAMPAIGN NATIONAL PRESS SECRETARY: Yes. And that's an indication just how unseasoned Sarah Palin is as a national candidate.
Ordinarily, somebody who knows that this is something that you're trying to get to a subterranean level, that you don't want to dominate the narrative for yet another news cycle, would make sure that they don't mention that, and, instead, they focus with a certain rigidity on the message of the day, because that's exactly what a V.P. is supposed to do.
Madden went on to say this is why McCain should have picked someone to be VP who has been a governor "for a long time." (Um, who would that be...?)
MADDEN: Look, that is why people who have done this before, people who have run national campaigns, always tend to look at prospective V.P. candidates, and they're the ones that are nationally vetted, the ones that have been governors on the scene for a long time, the ones that have been -- gone through the scrutiny of the national press corps in Washington. And that's exactly what has happened here, is that, when you put out an unknown and you give them 70 days with which to go through a vetting process, both by voters and the national press corps, ugly things can tend to happen.
A few points.
1) NRO might as well have been known as Romney Headquarters. And would have been, if not for Hugh Hewitt. They aren’t objective sources where the man is concerned.
2) I was a Thompson supporter and remember quite well the tactics employed by the Romney camp and sycophants against him so if I find it conceivable that the same is being done to Palin when I see the same people going after her, well, I think the suspicion is justified.
3) Whether Romney has officially sanctioned the attacks or not, and let’s just say he is not supportive. What does it say about the man that these are the people he commands the loyalty of? If Clinton’s associates were fair game in judging his character, and Obama’s associates are fair in judging his, then Romney’s people are the same. And, no, I’m not comparing Parker to Ayers. But a part of GWB’s main failing has been surounding himself with the wrong people that inevitably turned on him or persuaded him into the wrong course of action. Romney’s surrogates do not bring comfort.
4) Romney is not a conservative. And this really is why I’ll never support the man. I don’t buy the 11th hour conversion when he decided to run for the W.H. You can all say in 2012 he’ll have years under his belt as a practicing conservative but, not really. He won’t be holding office to test this conversion’s truth and he’s still running for office. There’s no way to prove the conversion isn’t politically motivated and I don’t see why I should take it on faith when we’ll have real proven conservatives as options in ‘12.
The Clintons are doing the same for Obama. Do you really think they want Obama to win?
Just a reminder:
‘For a moment today, Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, showed himself to be the business executive that he really is.
If he were president, he was asked, would he get Congress’s authorization to take military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities?
“You sit down with your attorneys,” said Romney, explaining his decision-making process in a time of potential crisis.’
That’s all you need to know about Romney. Non-starter.
It is a generalization, so if I've unfairly painted you I apologize. But it is more than a few.
Practically all Mormons that show up at my door start off trying to tell me that they are "Christian too", but the first thing you learn about Mormons is that Joseph Smith had a vision where the alleged Angel Moroni told him all the existing Christian denominations were "abominations". They intentionally use Christian terminology but without explaining that they mean something significantly different by the same terminology.
Excuse me for being blunt, but your faith is founded on a very twisted version of the truth. And if you didn't accept the Mormon claim that existing scripture was full of error and omisions you would see Mormonism for the deception that it is.
It wasn't even always polite. It had a very violent beginning and it's founder's actions resembled Jeff's in more ways than one.
Research sometime into all the changes that have been made in Mormon scripture over time to try to make it less objectionable to Christians.
Saw that little CNN hit job, with Campbell Brown, Gloria Borger and Madden, kissing each other’s rear ends as they’ve been doing for weeks and pretending to be objective and impartial.
Yup, Sarah’s got the angry left, elite RINOs, and their MSM lackeys frothing and plotting.
The battle for the soul of America is in full swing. The battle for the GOP will be a relatively small skirmish. Sarah America emerges victorious.
Maybe I see things differently than you but I’d call this a passive bashing. You don't mention your candidate (McCain), or your party and ticket losing a week and a half before the election if you are in Romney's position. As he did according to this article:
“Ex Candidate Mitt Romney sees White House run for Jindal.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2114380/posts
Kevin Madden - just remember that name. It will show up again four years from now, as Madden, another one of these parasites who can’t get real jobs and float from campaign to campaign, appears on the campaign of some other wannabe President.
He is like Steve Schmidt from the Bush-Cheney campaign, who after helping turn a certain landslide into a near-loss, popped up again this year as the head of the floundering McCain campaign.
McCain might be ahead by now if he wasn’t surrounded by Schmidts and Davises advising him to lay off issues like illegal immigration, drilling in ANWR, using Jeremiah Wright, an voting for a bailout, all positions out of sync not only with conservatives but with the majority of the American people.
Former presidential candidate Mitt Romney predicted Thursday that Gov. Bobby Jindal will consider a 2012 run for the White House if John McCain loses on Nov. 4.
“Bobby Jindal will certainly be taking a look at it,” Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, said on WWL-Radio
Read it again... Slowly this time...
There are 2 paragraphs there...
The 1st is the WRITER's interpretation of what was conveyed by Mitt.
The 2nd is Mitt's response to a question that was asked by the reporter. LOOK at the context... It says "Bobby Jindal will certainly be taking a look at it".
A look at what? Clearly it was a leading question... Something like "IF McCain loses, do you think that Jindal will be considered or will run"... Romney gives that (honest) response, and the MSM twists it and runs it
Created further disivion among GOP... check... Success...
Seriously, how pathetic has this become?
Romney and the RomneyBots are not Party Players...
Romney is all out for himself...
I’ve never used this word before, proves there’s a first time for everything.
Romney is a RINO.
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Welcome to my world...
Yes, Romney is a RINO...
We were told on another thread that Governor Sarah Palin and Romney come from two different worlds...
Just like John Edwards and the rest of us, I guess...
LOL
Actually they do...
Gov Palin is a decent human being and has integrity and convictions...
and is a leader for the conservatives
and will be a great leader of the country
Romney is... a RINO
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa
Romney wont be running in 2012...
The RomneyBots claimed FRed was TOO OLD at 65...
Well, Romney will be 65+ in 2012...
Surely he will also be TOO OLD..
LOL
;)
By the time the 2012 election comes around, all of the Romney criticisms will not be valid. Sarah Palin is still the Governor of Alaska and will remain until 2012.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
How about “Sarah Palin is still the Vice President of the United States and will remain (so) until 2012” ????
Or do you hope she will lose next week ???
Maybe you mean to write..
“If McCain loses next week, Sarah Palin will still be the Governor of Alaska and will remain so until 2010, when she will be re-elected, and she will then run for POTUS in 2012”
I hope this is not accurate. I was a Romney supporter in the primaries and caucused for him. If he had anything to do with this, he’s done in my book.
Former presidential candidate Mitt Romney predicted Thursday that Gov. Bobby Jindal will consider a 2012 run for the White House if John McCain loses on Nov. 4.
“Bobby Jindal will certainly be taking a look at it,” Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, said on WWL-Radio
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I have no idea why you have posted this except to give me an opportunity to say that Romney mad Jindal mad at him for saying that...
When Jindal was asked about Romney’s remarks, Jindal said that he never told Romney anything of the sort, Romney was jumping the gun and that he had not announced a run or even thought about it...
And you wonder why the other candidates didnt like Romney and thought him arrogent...
Romney belittles others by talking for them, and acting like they are just his puppets...
It’s not... It’s feeding chum to the bottom feeders that hate Mitt so much.
Mitt said this:
“Governor Palin’s story is one that all Americans will find inspiring,” Romney said in a statement issued earlier today. “She’s a Washington outsider with a commitment to the conservative principles that will make our nation stronger. I look forward to campaigning for Senator McCain, Governor Palin and Republicans all across the country,” Romney said.
And that's what he did.
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Here's more from NR's Corner on this smear campaign against Romney:
The Anti-Romney Campaign [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
I feel like the primary campaign isn't over as fingers point to Mitt Romney supposedly trying to take down Sarah Palin. The whole thing is a distraction Dems must be grateful for.
If the former Massachusetts governor is trying to do Palin in for the sake of his future, why has he been on TV and radio defending her? (Thanklessly, too; conservatives don't even see him when he's on David Gregory's show — just my hunch.)
People — e-mailers have been since I wrote on this last night — will point to items on the web about his former campaign spokesman, Kevin Madden, who is now with the Glover Park Group, being critical of Palin as evidence Team Romney is moving full-speed ahead toward 2012. But Kevin's back in D.C., in his and his family's post-Romney mode. He's also been a Palin defender on TV — including in an interview where he has been accused of trashing her — but also offers honest analysis of the campaign, missteps and all. But whatever Kevin says, wherever he says it, that's Madden speaking now, not Mitt Romney. The primary actually is long over.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjhlZDExN2VmODYxZDM1OTUzYzM2Y2MyZjNkMTk4MDM=
It is a pity when someone can't see when he is being used by the MSM. Sad.
For the same reason Bill and Hillary are out campaigning for and defending Obama?
“Romney is the only candidate nobody could find any dirt on except that he had a bunch of houses. The guy’s is squeaky clean so I don’t buy that Romney is behind this.”
Unlike Palin whom they have found incredible dirt on like ‘she wears expensive clothes the campaign bought for her’. /s
It's pretty clear here --- Romney with Glenn Beck:
GLENN: Gosh, I think it was a year and a half ago I said, gang, the only thing that’s going to matter when this election rolls around is the economy. I know everybody thought I was absolutely out of my mind crazy nuts when I said we are in big trouble and we could be facing another Great Depression. I don’t know what we’re facing now but we are facing dire, dire things in front of us. Every play has to be played exactly right. You know, when I say that, I want you to know that it’s going to be a great time in the future to be an American just like it was on September 12th. September 11th you didn’t want to go through, and in ‘99 I was telling you Osama Bin Laden was coming and there would be bodies in buildings in the streets of New York in 1999 and nobody wanted to hear it then, and there were. And let me give you the same kind of warning there’s going to be real trouble ahead, but the next day comes and we’re America again. And I said this to you a year and a half ago that the only thing that they were going to be arguing about in the end is going to be the economy and that’s why I said Mitt Romney was the guy to lead us. He was just with John McCain in Cleveland. We go to Mitt Romney now and I want to get some handle, Mitt, on have you ever seen a candidate like Barack Obama be more clear that he is a Marxist and people not listen.
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Rally, Glenn, it’s interesting. I haven’t been around forever and I’m 60 now and in my lifetime I do not recall a presidential candidate who had a more antijob program than does Barack Obama. He plans on paying people off by giving them a check, you know, sending a check to everybody, a $1,000 check. But I think the American people would far rather have a job than a one-time $1,000 check. And his plan kills job. John McCain’s plan will actually create jobs. Barack Obama’s would take a recession and turn it into a deep prolonged recession, or worse. And, you know, I just think Barack Obama at this time is exactly the wrong course for America.
GLENN: Did you hear the — did you hear what he said in 2001? Finally the tape has been released and surprisingly not by the mainstream media, what Barack Obama has said about the Constitution? Have you read the transcripts or heard the tape?
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Yeah, I did. I heard that he again is, you know, sad that the Supreme Court wouldn’t deal with redistribution of wealth and it’s a very different economic approach than the one that’s created America as the most powerful economy and the most powerful country in the world. You know, right now, of course, no one’s thinking about redistributing the wealth because wealth is disappearing, and redistributing wealth, that was the policy that, well, that some in Europe and other places in the world adopted and it led to economic failure.
GLENN: Okay. He is saying that he’s got — Barack Obama’s saying that he’s got this jobs creation program. As a businessman, I mean, I’m a small businessman. You’ve been a large businessman your whole life. Tell me the frothing at the mouth that people, just chomping at the bit to get that $3,000 that Barack Obama will give you for every new job created here in America. That’s his job growth plan. Tell me how great that is for business.
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Well, I’m afraid that’s a drop in the bucket compared to the economic risk you take in hiring additional employees, and people take that risk if they see a bright future. And if they’re looking at higher taxes for their corporation, higher taxes for them individually, if they’re looking at fees or penalties for not having a healthcare plan that Barack Obama finds acceptable and if also they are looking at new efforts to unionize small business through this card check program Barack Obama’s in favor of, they’re simply not going to be thinking about growing jobs here. I listened this morning to a CEO of a major employer. I won’t mention his name but a very large employer. He employs over 100,000 people. And he said, look, you know, Barack Obama’s policies will cause us to build plants in places other than the U.S., and it is a job-killing program. We’ve got to support a job program like John McCain’s. John McCain is talking about cutting taxes on corporations, it immediately sounds horrible to people because of the perversion that we’ve allowed to happen, you know, with our press and everything else, where corporations are evil, where rich people are evil. Explain, if you will, to you know the average person that is struggling, busting their butt. Why a corporation getting a giant tax cut, why that makes a difference in creating jobs here in America as opposed to other countries.
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Well, the simple fact is that corporations can decide where they are going to reside, where they are going to do their business. And they can be here, they can be in Ireland, they can be in Canada, they can be anywhere they want in the world and right now America and Japan have the two highest corporate tax rates in the world and so as businesses think about locating a new facility or even moving their corporate headquarters, they are free to go wherever they want. They are not like U.S. citizens that don’t have citizenship in a place like Hong Kong or China or Japan. They can go wherever they want. And so if you have high taxes, high corporate taxes, you cause businesses to go somewhere else. It’s as simple as that. In Ireland, for instance, the European Union, they said, you know what, we’re going to have the lowest tax rates. And sure enough businesses flocked to Ireland. They created scores of new jobs. People had high paying jobs. It was good for the people and it was good for the government as well because they got taxes from all the people paying income taxes. The answer is always create growth, create jobs. A job is so much more of an economic benefit than is a check from government.
GLENN: Mitt, let me talk to you not about politics and no about either of the politicians. Let’s just say we’re having this conversation the day after and whoever’s won, whoever won, okay?
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Yeah.
GLENN: I said earlier this morning I believe this is the most important — and I will say this the day after the election, no matter who won. This is the most important time possibly in American history. The problems that face us, the decisions that we have to make, the time to know who we truly are and what we truly believe in, the values of America, we must reconnect with them because this is quite possibly the most important time in our country’s history. Do you believe I’m overstating that?
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: No, I actually think you’re right, Glenn. You know, in my campaign stump speech I used to say almost that, which is this is an extraordinarily critical time for our country. We face challenges from without. We face a new stronger China, we face Russia using energy to propel their new power and we face global jihad. So we face three fronts, if you will, from a national security standpoint. And then our economy is facing some tough competitive challenges. And if we become a second tier nation economically, we will have a hard time defending our freedoms. This really is a “Make it or break it” time for America.
GLENN: I know we have to let you go, you have other things scheduled but we’d love to have you back sometime this week if we could. I’d like to talk to you a little bit about the importance that Russia and Venezuela and Iran and what — everybody is looking at oil saying, oil, this is great, it’s going down. They are talking now it could go down to $46 a barrel, which would be great at the pump, but it is a colossal danger because these countries that we depend on for oil are now becoming extraordinarily unstable economically. Could we spend some time with you maybe later this week if we can get the schedules together?
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: I’m out campaigning for John McCain but we’ll keep in touch.
GLENN: Okay, thank you very much.
GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Thanks, Glenn.
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