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If McCain Wins, Will Television Be The Biggest Loser? Nonparticipation In Presidential Polling
Media Post ^ | 11-03-2008 | Frank S. Foster

Posted on 11/03/2008 11:05:50 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

If McCain Wins, Will Television Be The Biggest Loser? Nonparticipation In Presidential Polling

by Frank S. Foster , Monday, November 3, 2008

I received my Bachelor's degree from a state university in the Midwest many years ago. My tenure there was hardly notable, but the administration bestowed upon me a diploma and I moved on to warmer if not better things. So it was with genuine surprise when I learned that someone claiming to be affiliated with my former university wanted to speak with me.

"If this is about that honorary doctorate, I thought I made it quite clear-I will graciously accept," I began when the call was transferred.

"I'm sorry? No, no, Mr. Foster. This is about a panel discussion on political polls in battleground states."

"Really?" I asked.

"Yes. We would like you to participate in a discussion about presidential polling."

"No kidding? This is a surprise."

"I know, I spoke with your assistant and she said you hate polls," she continued. "But we would like you to consider our invitation. We need someone who is ... well, notorious, when it comes to research."

"When you say it that way, how could I possibly decline."

"I am sorry. Again." There was silence on the line.

"My dear young lady, you've got me all wrong. I don't hate polls-, " I corrected her.

"I'm glad to hear that," she interjected.

"I hate pollsters."

There was a moment of silence before she said, "So does that mean you are not interested?"

"Well, I tell you what. Throw in that doctorate thing and we'll see what we can do."

So early last Monday morning, I participated in a conference call with several noted pollsters and a number of academics with qualifications much more robust than my own. For nearly two hours they talked about various "groups" within the Florida electorate. There were the I-4 Corridor Independents, Protestant Latinos, Jews Over 65 living in South Florida, Successful Black Small Business Owners, and my favorite, College Educated Crackers. All of which were very interesting and entertaining -- which is why the television news programs are full of such analysis.

At the end I was asked if I had anything to add. I said I had only one question for each of the pollsters, "What percentage of the people approached to participate in the poll completed the questionnaire?"

In my view, the crux of the problem associated with presidential polling is panel participation, or more appropriately, nonparticipation. Unlike television research, small sample size in this environment is not nearly as problematic. But for some of the pollsters involved in our conference call last week, nearly nine out of 10 people initially chosen to participate in the poll refused to participate. Which means quite literally, if a researcher went up to the door of ten houses on a block (or in a grocery store or more likely on a telephone) nine shut her down before answering all of her questions.

How big of a problem is this? Well, that depends. Suppose those who did not participate shared a common characteristic. If that particular characteristic were to affect their choice of candidate on Nov. 4, the pollsters have a potentially significant problem. Take wealth, for example. Assume for a moment that wealthy people are much less likely to participate in polls. Suppose those same voters are much more likely to vote Republican for President because they feel the Democrat will significantly raise their taxes. Because of the non-response bias, the poll's data would likely underestimate the support for McCain in wealthy households.

"But the number of wealthy Americans is significantly smaller than the number of poor Americans," dismissed an academic. "Your bias will be overcome by Democratic turnout within the poor segment of the electorate alone." Perhaps. But the bias in our example is real and the error associated with the poll's results does not reflect that.

Bias is not limited to small samples of the electorate. Suppose a voter's enthusiasm for a candidate makes them more likely to participate in polls. Suppose Obama supporters are much more likely to be enthused about their candidate than those who support McCain. This "candidate enthusiasm" bias may cause the poll to inaccurately reflect support for both candidates. This comment about bias was greeted with silence from all parties on the conference call. I thought I had been cut off.

What did this meeting have to do with television? Put simply, almost nothing. But its effect on television means almost everything. The Wall Street Journal stated the other day that the last 139 major polls had Obama winning the election. You need only tune into NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and MSNBC to see that the medium as a whole has run with the pollsters. Without knowing the full extent of the error and bias of the estimates, television has made it clear that Obama is the shoe-in winner. And everyone in America likes a winner.

But what if the polls were wrong? Suppose for a moment that McCain were to win. What will happen? Smarter men than I have suggested the country may be at risk for racial strife the likes of which it has never been seen. Will minorities feel wronged? Undoubtedly. Will it be the fault of television -- unequivocally. Let us hope for the sake of television as a medium that Barack Obama wins tomorrow. Whether or not television has affected who will become President, let us pray the medium avoids its "Dewey Defeats Truman" moment for another election cycle.


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1 posted on 11/03/2008 11:05:50 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

We’ve seen racial strife in this country before. But my question, what if it’s McCain in a landslide?

Will anyone question the media’s complicity in the absolute hoax that has been perpetrated on this country?


2 posted on 11/03/2008 11:08:42 AM PST by rlferny
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To: rlferny

McCain is not winning in a landslide. If he wins it will be by a slim margin.

I wish people would stop giving people false hope for a landslide. That is completely unrealistic to expect.


3 posted on 11/03/2008 11:11:35 AM PST by acsuc99 (T)
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To: rlferny

“what if it’s McCain in a landslide?”

When McCain wins, it’s gonna make the liberal media look like total fools. They are going to be totally humiliated and embarrassed and their credibility will be shaken to its foundation, in the eyes of America.

Better get your popcorn ready, because it’ll be GREAT to watch!!!

McCain-Palin’08!!!


4 posted on 11/03/2008 11:12:18 AM PST by wk4bush2004 (Let the sound of intercession meet Your ears......)
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To: My Favorite Headache
( If McCain Wins, Will Television Be The Biggest Loser? )
They already are the BIGGEST LOSERS !!
5 posted on 11/03/2008 11:13:21 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: rlferny

So basically the author says vote Obama or riots will happen...and we don’t want riots now do we?


6 posted on 11/03/2008 11:14:03 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (Forget the 3AM phone call. Obama can not even answer the phone at 3PM.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

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7 posted on 11/03/2008 11:14:12 AM PST by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: All

The media has already taken a huge hit. I don’t think traditional media as we know it will survive, regardless the outcome of this election. When someone as unassuming as “Tito the Builder” attacks the media bias, you can multiply that conern by millions...


8 posted on 11/03/2008 11:14:28 AM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Hey I’m a college educated cracker! Never knew there was a group just for me. Never been polled though. Bet those pollsters don’t even have clue where the term cracker comes from.


9 posted on 11/03/2008 11:14:29 AM PST by dblshot
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To: My Favorite Headache

I hate pols..............


10 posted on 11/03/2008 11:15:14 AM PST by Red Badger (My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I’m more prepared to handle an Obama win than these idiots are to handle an Obama loss. Yeah, I’ll take my lumps if Obama wins, but I’ll be near orgasmic watching these fools come to grips when Obama loses.


11 posted on 11/03/2008 11:15:44 AM PST by umgud (In a crisis, dump gold, buy lead)
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To: acsuc99

“McCain is not winning in a landslide. If he wins it will be by a slim margin.”

5-4 works for me.


12 posted on 11/03/2008 11:16:27 AM PST by dblshot
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To: rlferny
"racial strife in this country"

My view of this is that it has been rendered moot by the rise of Islamic Jhadis. 0be clearly doesn't believe this as he seems to be a Jihadi apologist/fellow traveller.

13 posted on 11/03/2008 11:17:45 AM PST by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (RINOs? PUMA))
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To: My Favorite Headache

I seem to recall some data released after the 2004 election that conservatives are much less likely to respond to Polls than liberals. Hence the pollsters had a hard time getting accurate sample sizes.


14 posted on 11/03/2008 11:17:45 AM PST by skikvt (Blah Blah Blah.)
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To: Red Badger

I hate pols and polls...


15 posted on 11/03/2008 11:19:29 AM PST by green iguana
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To: My Favorite Headache
But for some of the pollsters involved in a recent conference call I heard last week, nearly nine out of 10 people initially chosen to participate in the poll refused to participate. Which means quite literally, if a researcher went up to the door of ten houses on a block (or in a grocery store or more likely on a telephone) nine shut her down before answering all of her questions.
There is a lot of talk bout the Bradley Effect, and a bit of talk about the unusually high non-participation. But few seem to have put the two together to understand the inherent relationship between the two. This is the true nature of the Bradley Effect. There is a very large percentage of voters who are not supporting 0bama who aren't talking to pollsters. So other people who are more inclined to support 0bama take their place in the polling data. It would be like the pollsters forgetting to poll Republicans.
 
16 posted on 11/03/2008 11:20:54 AM PST by counterpunch (It's the SOCIALISM, Stupid!)
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To: green iguana

I hate pols’ polls and polemic Poles..........


17 posted on 11/03/2008 11:22:54 AM PST by Red Badger (My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Great read, thanks.

Here's the takeaway line:

Will minorities feel wronged? Undoubtedly. Will it be the fault of television -- unequivocally.

18 posted on 11/03/2008 11:26:25 AM PST by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: skikvt
I work at at survey research center. For every 20 or so calls, someone will do a survey. Mostly the people doing the survey, are Liberal. That tells me that Conservatives are usually underrepresented in the survey data, because they just won't respond.

Knowing what I know about the survey questions, I will never do a survey either. Nothing in the possible survey responses will permit you to express an unalloyed Conservative view.

19 posted on 11/03/2008 11:26:46 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: acsuc99

“McCain is not winning in a landslide. If he wins it will be by a slim margin.”

May I borrow your crystal ball ... I want to see if
Alabama beats LSU next sat.


20 posted on 11/03/2008 11:26:51 AM PST by RED SOUTH
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