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Lehman's Fall and Palin Pick Did McCain In
IBD ^ | 11/6/08 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 11/06/2008 6:26:50 PM PST by Blackhawk73

In my previous life, I witnessed far more difficult postmortems. This one is easy:

The patient was fatally stricken on Sept. 15 — caught in the rubble when the roof fell in (at Lehman Bros., according to the police report) — although he did linger until his final, rather quiet demise on Nov. 4.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008veep; charleskrauthammer; issues; krauthammer; mccain; palin; postmortem; wallstreet
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To: Huck

If not for Palin, McCain would have lost by stunning numbers. He is still 6mm votes behind Bush’s 04 totals, and Nobama is about 1mm above them. The bottom line was turnout, and if not for Palin, this would have been worse. Those “independents” for the “maverick” can be counted on one foot.


41 posted on 11/06/2008 6:46:21 PM PST by TexasGus (u)
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To: Republic of Texas

I’ve known “genius” types....they are usually “genius” in ONE area.....obviously Charles is in an area he knows little about.


42 posted on 11/06/2008 6:46:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (CONSERVATIVES....saving America's A** whether you like it or not!)
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To: Blackhawk73
McCain's "loyal" minions; are really showing (by trashing Palin) now out of touch he et al. really was.
Gov. Palin "energized" the base...."Strawberries" McCain, was very fortune.
43 posted on 11/06/2008 6:47:02 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: Blackhawk73

Used to like Krauthammer. Now he can join Brit Hume, Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, Michael Medved, and the rest of the neocons in hell.


44 posted on 11/06/2008 6:47:02 PM PST by Bull Market (The Neo-Con experiment failed. John McCain deserved to lose.)
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To: Blackhawk73

Krauthammer needs to get away from the North East corner of the USA,

Charles, go to where we own guns and a Bible. Take a ride in a real live pickup and cug beer from a long neck bottle. Luckenbach Texas would be a good place to start.


45 posted on 11/06/2008 6:47:07 PM PST by CHEE (Stink, Steam and All)
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To: JasonC
"I won't ever defend you, as a result, on anything."

I'm strongly in favor of eating, drinking, and breathing on a regular basis.

46 posted on 11/06/2008 6:47:13 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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To: Blackhawk73

Sorry, Charles, McCain was the weakness on the ticket. He would have gotten nowhere without Palin. McCain and Bob Dole are the two weakest candidates fielded by Repubs in my lifetime.


47 posted on 11/06/2008 6:47:39 PM PST by JoeGar
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To: vortigern
I agree. John S. McCain was fading fast until Sarah Palin came along. She did far more than one would expect of a vice presidential candidate. McCain lost because of his poor campaign, elitism, stupidity, and radical amnesty ideas.
48 posted on 11/06/2008 6:47:39 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: Clemenza
Palin may not be well liked or respected by anyone outside of the base, but without her, even more of the base wouldn’t have shown up.

The results from ohio, posted here today, says that is nothing more than a tall tail and spin you are trying to sell. No provable facts.

49 posted on 11/06/2008 6:47:56 PM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: Blackhawk73
Lehman, yes. Palin, no.

This is the silliest argument I've heard.

McCain flipped off the base from the beginning. The fact that he chose a conservative as his VP pick proves that the GOP knew the base was flipping him off right back.

Had he NOT picked Gov. Palin, the base would have stayed home in droves and McCain would have fared about as well as Mondale.

As the GOP continues to split between RINOs and Conservatives, those who trash Palin and her pick expose which side they are on. I hope CK isn't in that camp.

50 posted on 11/06/2008 6:48:23 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Blackhawk73

Krauthammer makes a valid point. He wasn’t critical of Palin herself but of the way her inexperience eliminated one of McCain’s arguments against Obama. There are more reasons McCain lost than you can count. It’s miraculous that he did as well as he did. He made his mistakes but the deck was totally, totally stacked against him.

Palin also turned out to be a major target of the Media and still is. Tonight on the ABC news they ran all of today’s stuff on Palin, and later on the show when they discussed what dog Obama should buy for his children they said ‘well maybe not a pit bull’ while showing a picture of Palin.

Obama’s presidency is going to be very interesting. As Tom Brokaw said on the Charlie Rose show the other day, ‘we really don’t know much about Obama’. Holy cow that’s a huge slam on his own media organization.


51 posted on 11/06/2008 6:48:48 PM PST by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: Blackhawk73
And another thing, instead of analyzing the Palin issue, it would be a far greater use of their time if these Conservative commentators and journalists would investigate the level of involvement the Democrats had in this oh-so-perfectly-timed economic crisis, that seems to have completely blown over though the banks are not lending their bailout money.

Remember, the core of the crisis was that banks had no commercial paper, no money to lend each other and businesses. If they got the money and are not lending it and business is still thriving, then obviously there was no crisis and Glenn Beck was strung along by the nose.

52 posted on 11/06/2008 6:50:58 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Blackhawk73

The biggest deciding factor was McCain never gave us Straight Talk and never named names. He failed to lead in the month of the Economic Crisis, and he under performed in the debates. So much opposition research and hardly any was used. Effectively, it was one fence sitting politician against another, and Obama won because he was slicker.


53 posted on 11/06/2008 6:51:08 PM PST by igoramus08 (Democrats caused Fannie and Freddie to collapse and this Economic Crisis and Recession)
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To: goodnesswins

I agree. He should stick to the secular side of Conservatism.


54 posted on 11/06/2008 6:51:12 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Blackhawk73

I hate to say it Charles, but Juan sounded like the hick. He is a positively horrendous speaker, a terrible debater, a dope on the economy, and too old.

He did himself in by thinking he could even win the conservative vote after pissing in their wheaties. Seems like many of them stayed home because the knew Juan was the POTUS candidate.

Get with it Charles, maybe you are outdated too.


55 posted on 11/06/2008 6:51:50 PM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: goodnesswins

“usually” should be “sometimes”


56 posted on 11/06/2008 6:52:10 PM PST by goodnesswins (CONSERVATIVES....saving America's A** whether you like it or not!)
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To: Blackhawk73

And McCain is ready to go back to the senate, and be a pain in the rear of true conservatives. I predict he will be even more on the side of the rats, and more against the cause of conservatism; in his mind, he will make us pay for ‘not electing him’.


57 posted on 11/06/2008 6:52:52 PM PST by gedeon3
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To: pabianice
Yup, it's a result of his "illness" ~ he doesn't like Holy Rollers ~ he's a religious bigot.

Time to treat Chuck as we would any other religious bigot.

58 posted on 11/06/2008 6:52:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Lancey Howard

Krauthammer may be right about the experience card being squandered, but she had experience as an executive that was never fully exploited by the McCain camp. That I will never understand. Failure to play to Palin’s strengths is a mystery.


59 posted on 11/06/2008 6:53:20 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: org.whodat

I have seen at least six polls that show that Sarah Palin, who I like, just isn’t appreciated by the masses as much as she is by you and I.


60 posted on 11/06/2008 6:54:03 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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