Ah! Sweet is Freedom's Breeze! (Vanity)

10 November 2008 | DieHard the Hunter

[DieHard the Hunter]

> John Key is a centrist, and no conservative apart from limited economic marketism, even by the standards of the National Party (which is described by the Auckland University Students Association as sandwiched between US Democratic and US Republican Party). This comes from Rodney Hide (leader of the free-market ACT Party): “On some areas, John [Key] is to the left of even Helen [Clark]”.

Baby steps, baby steps: first we get rid of Auntie Helen and her mob of left-wing lunaticks, then we do a small shift, then another one, then another one.

The reason why free market policies failed the last time is that they were implemented hastily and poorly (electricity company de-regulation being one good example, telecommunications and trains and airports and airlines being others).

Baby steps are good steps. Patience...

[planter]

So what? Outlaw them completely and you'd have a point.

My point was already made. SSM is the law of the land in Canada. The same cannot be said of the US , where a majority of the states don't even recognize SS civil unions.

The fact remains , with no law , a difference of 6/1000 births less can not be dismissed by saying Canada allows late term .

Oh but it can be dismissed , because it is fractionally insignificant. As of 2005, there is a 2% difference between the two national rates. However,I can point out one very big difference between the two; the number of abortions paid for by the Government. What percentage of abortions are paid for by the Federal or state governments in the US?

I am well aware of Stephen's and others' situations . All HRCs over stepped their mandates during years of Liberal reign .

During the Liberal reign?? Excuse me , but Boisson's situation has taken place during Harper's reign.

And what of books banned in the USA ?

I'm sorry, which books would those be? Are they similar to the ones banned in Canada?

[NZerFromHK]

Oh I don’t really disagree, and I happily support John Key and he may be trying to go down the Stephen Harper route. Let’s hope that baby steps approach doesn’t become an excuse to end-all-means-all me-too-ism like Sir Rob Muldoon in the 1970s. John Key is probably far more genuine conservative than David Cameron.

But if Obamaism becomes the US national ideology, I would expect NZ to move at top speed back to soberity and full military prepardedness of Sir Keith Holyoake times, either out of gravity of the geopolitical situations, solidarity with the former mother country (Britain), or simply contratarian spirits from American beliefs.

[NZerFromHK]

Also interesting it is the Jafas that want Dear Helen out the most and Christchurch is more leftist than Auckland. National’s poll figures at Christchurch are 5% lower than Auckland while Labour is 5% higher, which from my ground observations are pretty accurate.

[DieHard the Hunter]

That is interesting. Equally interesting is the shift to National in West Auckland. More people voted Party Vote National in Te Atatu than Labor (even tho’ Labor won the seat), and in Waitakere (my electorate) National’s candidate Paula Bennett handily defeated incumbent Lynn Pillay (Labor). West Auckland has always been rabidly pro-Labor so this is quite a shift.

Could be, as you say, everyone is sick to death of Auntie Helen. I know that I for one have had a gutsful of her.

[NZerFromHK]

My electorate Waimakariri has a conservative sitting Labour MP Clayton Cosgrove and yet he can only survive by just 500 votes and I think National won the party vote here. There was a scare for a few hours at Christchurch Central as well (which has been a safe Labour seat for a generation).

The only reliably conservative electorate covering any part of the greater Christchurch region is Ilam, although Ranritata (sp?) (Ashburton and Lincoln) is National territory as well. If you mention Auckland economic consensus around here you will find there is a lot of sneers towards “neoliberal Jafas” and a more attachments to government-owned infrastructure, council-owned public housing, etc.

But still Labour lost Christchurch, which is very unusual. They hung on to Wellington due to civil servant populations, but even in Wellington Central the party vote battle is lost.

[DieHard the Hunter]

> If you mention Auckland economic consensus around here you will find there is a lot of sneers towards “neoliberal Jafas”

Auckland is a really weird mixed bag. Definite shift toward National, tho’ in most parts. Lots of that would be Helen fatigue, I’m guessing. She just plain overstayed her welcome. Probably should have sat out this past four years and let National govern, then come back for another two terms. But no, she had to get greedy and cobble together that Winston Peters contraption...