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To: Snowyman
Canadians don't need what you call conservative values. What's the difference between a Canadian SS marriage and a US civil union ? The US has had them longer than Canada has. There is no difference With no law , the Canadian abortion rate is declining and is now 14 /1000 women , close to the European of 12/1000 , while in the US , where there are restrictions , the rate is at 20/1000 . World wide it’s 29/1000. As for free speech in Canada , Supreme Court upholds right to offend with free speech Rob Breakenridge, For The Calgary Herald Published: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 The court's rousing defence of freedom of expression was a delightful breath of fresh air after months of the smog of speech suppression. Justice Ian Binnie wrote that: "We live in a free country, where people have as much right to express outrageous and ridiculous opinions as moderate ones."

Canada has SSM nationwide, sanctioned by the federal government. Of course, the excuse was that the courts made them do it. SSM and civil unions are not uniformly in place statewide in the US. The US at least bans certain late term abortions. Canada does not. Free speech?? Ever heard of Stephen Boisson? A $5000 fine and a lifetime ban on preaching against or condemning homosexuality doesn't sound free to me. In PEI, a Bed and breakfast operation forced to close its doors for refusing to cater to same sex couples. A church fined for dismissing its female minister. Multiple people hauled before HRTs for non-threatening speech that offended the sensibilities of some. Bill C-250, which became law. Radio stations banned from carrying certain messages from James Dobson and Dr Laura. Need I go on?

27 posted on 11/09/2008 9:29:13 PM PST by planter
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To: planter
SSM and civil unions are not uniformly in place statewide in the US.

So what? Outlaw them completely and you'd have a point.

The US at least bans certain late term abortions. Canada does not.

Canada never had late term abortion factories , the US did . The fact remains , with no law , a difference of 6/1000 births less can not be dismissed by saying Canada allows late term . The reality is if you looked into late term in Canada it is difficult to have approved and are extremely rare .

Stephen Boisson

I am well aware of Stephen's and others' situations . All HRCs over stepped their mandates during years of Liberal reign . As with all struggles against bureaucracy nothing is easy , nothing certain or fast .

Months ago I posted my letter from Harper's office concerning HRC/Warman etc. on Levant's blog , as have others. The SCOC decision is but one step to see the HRCs castrated and eliminated.

Radio stations banned from carrying certain messages from James Dobson and Dr Laura. Need I go on?

And what of books banned in the USA ?

34 posted on 11/10/2008 5:37:12 AM PST by Snowyman
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