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MSM Confirms what we already knew; PUMA Delivered, GOP didn’t…

MSM Confirms what we already knew; PUMA Delivered, GOP didn’t…
November 7, 2008 by PUMA Pundit
Earlier this week, we stated that as promised, PUMA delivered, a lot of folks thought we had lost our marbles. Well, it seems the MSM itself has validated our claim that the reason McCain/Palin lost the election is because the GOP base did not come out and vote.

Firstly, it seems despite all the hype of new voters coming out to vote, turnout in 2008 was the same as in 2004, or at best slightly higher:

A new report from American University’s Center for the Study of the American Electorate concludes that voter turnout in Tuesday’s election was the same in percentage terms as it was four years ago — or at most has risen by less than 1 percent.

The report released Thursday estimates that between 126.5 and 128.5 million Americans cast ballots in the presidential election earlier this week. Those figures represent 60.7 percent or, at most, 61.7 percent of those eligible to vote in the country.

and then this:

“A downturn in the number and percentage of Republican voters going to the polls seemed to be the primary explanation for the lower than predicted turnout,” the report said. Compared to 2004, Republican turnout declined by 1.3 percentage points to 28.7 percent, while Democratic turnout increased by 2.6 points from 28.7 percent in 2004 to 31.3 percent in 2008.

Exit polls however showed that:

Democrats who supported Sen. Hillary Clinton during the primaries overwhelming voted for Obama in the general election, 84 percent to 15 percent for McCain.

In other words, by conservative estimates, there are close to 3 million PUMAs (2.88 million to be precise ) for that is what 16% of 18 million is. More importantly, 2.7 million put country first and actually voted for John McCain / Sarah Palin.

Let’s recap. In 2004:

George Bush: 62,040,610 (an increase of 22.96% fpr the GOP)

John Kerrey: 59,028,444 (an increas of 16.99% for the Democrats)

in 2008 with all states reporting (NC and MO haven’t finalized numbers yet, but this is with 100% of precincts in both states reporting:

Obama has 65,002,864 (an increase of 10.12% for the Democrats)

McCain has 57,143,022 (54,443,022 if the PUMA vote is removed) (a decrease of 12.25% for the GOP)

All that was required to win the popular vote for McCain was a 1% increase in the GOP vote (620,000 more votes than 2004), and the PUMA vote of 2.8 million would have put him over the top.

I guess in the final analysis, the reason Obama won the election is because he played one hell of a mind game on the GOP base, a mind game that ensured a 12% decrease in the number of votes over 2004.


7 posted on 11/13/2008 9:14:26 PM PST by DoneWithDems
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To: DoneWithDems
I guess in the final analysis, the reason Obama won the election is because he played one hell of a mind game on the GOP base

That's true, but also many GOP voters wouldn't vote for McCain.

10 posted on 11/13/2008 9:17:39 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: DoneWithDems
like I said, the "Red Messiah" Obambi, doesn't trust SHRILLary.
21 posted on 11/13/2008 9:23:23 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: DoneWithDems

Yes — and you can be sure that the portion of the GOP base that gave us Obama will be the loudest b*tchers over the next four years.


23 posted on 11/13/2008 9:25:35 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: DoneWithDems

I know several “principled” Republicans who left the Presidential vote blank or wrote in a non-write-in candidate.


32 posted on 11/13/2008 9:35:28 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: DoneWithDems

BS. If Republicans didn’t turn out, it was the RINOs, not the hardcore base. Movement conservatives were as energized as ever.


42 posted on 11/13/2008 10:00:03 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: DoneWithDems
Firstly, it seems despite all the hype of new voters coming out to vote, turnout in 2008 was the same as in 2004, or at best slightly higher:

That doesn't mean there weren't lots of new voters. It means that there were many voters who were sick of the Nanny-State Socialism that has defined the GOP over the past decade and decided to stay home.

52 posted on 11/13/2008 10:34:35 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: DoneWithDems

I have a question you might be able to answer.
We hear about the huge black vote and now the hispanic vote.
I dont see blacks as having that much influence on national elections if blacks = 13% of the population and many black males cant vote because they are felons. I would have thought the PUMAS almost cancel the black vote. What am I missing?

AS for the hispanics, they just became a force in the past twenty years that America has encouraged and allowed Mexicans to get their backs wet. But they should not be allowed to vote so they should have little influence on a national election.


80 posted on 11/14/2008 5:08:25 AM PST by winodog
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To: DoneWithDems

In my very republican county in Indiana, the base did come out and vote. We had 80% turnout. The problem was that our base split their votes. Gov. Daniels got 28,000 more votes in Hamilton County than John McCain.

He just didn’t sell himself.


81 posted on 11/14/2008 5:16:12 AM PST by henkster (It's time for a conservative "long march through the institutions.")
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To: DoneWithDems

“”I guess in the final analysis, the reason Obama won the election is because he played one hell of a mind game on the GOP base, a mind game that ensured a 12% decrease in the number of votes over 2004.””

Pathetic and tragic. Well, GOP - cutting off your nose to spite your face (classic example). Hope you’re happy with helping the downfall of this country get elected.


95 posted on 11/14/2008 8:51:14 PM PST by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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