Posted on 11/20/2008 11:46:54 PM PST by STARWISE
That is incorrect- there is no such category of citizen under US law. You are either a citizen from birth, and therefore qualified for the Presidency, or a citizen by naturalization, and therefore not.
“The Constitution does not prohibit a non-citizen or an ineligible citizen from running for POTUS. It only makes him ineligible to take the office.”
Interesting point.
I was pretty miffed at the clown that told some mother that her daughter could not be president because she was born accross the border in Canada, even though they actually lived in the U.S and ARE U.S. citizens.
Do you think the Supreme Court is that cowardly? If so, I give up on this nation and will try to find somewhere else to live.
It isn’t up to the Supreme Court to ENFORCE the ruling, is it?
That’s why we have SWAT teams and National Guard and so forth and so on.
A constitutional amendment requires the vote of 3/4 of the 50 states. That’s not going to happen.
It certainly IS a federal case...President of the US is a federal position!
What they rule for one state is a precedent for all the states in any case...most of the states will take the same action as NJ. What SCOTUS rules applies to all states.
BTW, there is also a lawsuit brought on by the one for VP of the Independence Party of the US and also one brought on by 24 of the electorates of the EC. By this time, there may be more electorates joining the latter case. They are refusing to give their electoral votes for Obama unless he has first shown his eligibility.
Whatever happens, it is already a constitutional crisis. Hope O goes to prison for a long time if it comes to that!
If Obama gets in, you can bet that there will be new lower judges appointed and probably new SOSs at state levels. It needs to be fast forwarded before January at least!
The Congress has no say in this matter at all.
No hospital would release the original long form from their vaults...they would have to give them a copy of it, and a copy can be forged, as we know. I think the only way to be certain they have the real thing is to go there together and view it the minute it is “unsealed”. Then making copies in front of all of them.
http://frwebgate6.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/TEXTgate.cgi?WAISdocID=8548749399+12+1+0&WAISaction=retrieve
Resolution in the Senate on McCain’s citizenship that says, among other things that: “The term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States”
I don’t think we will lose. There is a real grassroots movement to go back to the constitution and to be watchful of what is happening, taking whatever action is necessary. We may lose some fights, but by George, the media won’t be able to suppress the clamour of it!
Maybe this is the best thing that has ever happened to us. We’ve been losing freedoms little by little and we didn’t even know it. Now we wake up to see how close we are to a dictatorship and see how it can happen. The groundwork has been laid for it over the years and decades, now it is coming harvest time and Obama is the one who thinks he can harvest the rewards. He’s wrong. You know the phase “let sleeping tigers lie.” We’re waking up now.
Wikipedia has an interesting discussion on this, though their facts are not verified.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
It doesn’t appear to me that McCain is eligible to be president. The point is moot now in his case, since he won’t run again for that office, but it needs to be answered.
There really is no definition of “natural born” citizen in the constitution unless it can be inferred from the wording. If the Supreme Court does hear these cases, this is their only possible “out”. I just don’t think they will take that “out”.
Right on, right on, right on.
We’ve got every chance of restoring our republic, as long as people stay as positive as you are.
Every win is preceded by the imagination of victory.
there is also a lawsuit brought on ... by 24 of the electorates of the EC. By this time, there may be more electorates joining the latter case. They are refusing to give their electoral votes for Obama unless he has first shown his eligibility.
***Which case is that?
One question arises when only one parent is a U.S. citizen and the residency conditions of that one parent. i.e. A U.S. citizen moves to europe and lives there for several years, marries a european spouse and they have a child.
Though the person moving to europe from the U.S. may still be a U.S. citizen (never seeking immigration status in the new country)case law has never really tested whether that persons child would be a Natural born citizen. Everything we hear regarding situations like that is PURE speculation until such time that Congress addresses the issue in legislation or the USSC decides case law explicit to those conditions.
I certainly do. Absolutely.
If so, I give up on this nation and will try to find somewhere else to live.
If you find a better place than America, let me know.
No. That is why we have the Second Amendment.
Welcome to FR.
Maybe.
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