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Jonah Goldberg: Honestly, Another Abe? (Comparing Obama to FDR and Lincoln)
Townhall ^ | November 21, 2008 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/21/2008 1:08:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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21 posted on 11/21/2008 4:37:24 AM PST by villagerjoel (1984 was not supposed to be an instruction manual!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
when his Cuban Missile Crisis starts, as Biden predicted

Kennedy was working against a semi-rational, readily identifiable enemy against whom America could have and would have easily retaliated, with the knowledge that his enemy would exercise prior restraint.

When 0bama gets to step up to that plate, we will have already been severely damaged, with no clear enemy to retaliate against, and with 50% of the population crying real tears of anger that we brought it on ourselves.

22 posted on 11/21/2008 4:39:29 AM PST by Hardastarboard (America is so "twenty minutes ago")
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Well, I am sure that you have read that these “changes” will not (can not) take place immediately and may not for 10 years or so. So what the h did those 63mil folks vote for?


23 posted on 11/21/2008 4:52:20 AM PST by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is interesting to note that both Lincoln and MLK were Republicans. I will bet the vast majority of Obama voters, including those in the media, do not know that.


24 posted on 11/21/2008 5:02:03 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No doubt it would be gauche to suggest that before evaluating his presidency, he might actually be expected to DO something first other than simply flapping his gums and promising everything to everyone, something at which politicians - all of them crooks equal to Capone - are masterful.


25 posted on 11/21/2008 5:15:02 AM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FDR was a fraud who tried to bring Mussolini and Hitler type government controlled economy to the USA via his NRA program

Good thing SCOTUS stopped that

Read the book “The Roosevelt Myth” by John Flynn—make you see just what a failure FDR was

BTW here is an interesting quote presented in the book

It was uttered by a Rabbi Rosenblum

“We see in him a God-like messenger , the darling of destiny, the MESSIAH OF AMERICA’s TOMORROW”

MY MY things don’t really change that much


26 posted on 11/21/2008 5:16:50 AM PST by uncbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give it two years and you won’t be able to find anyone who will admit to voting for Obama.


27 posted on 11/21/2008 5:22:46 AM PST by avacado
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FDR, 6 years into his packing the Supreme Court "rule", unemployment was 17.2%, net private investment was minus billions, GDP was lower in 1939 than 1929 etc...

Obama better hope there are a bogymen across the seas that will help stimulate domestic production and after the bogymen are defeated return to something resembling capitalism (FDR by then was hanging out with the worms).
28 posted on 11/21/2008 5:27:04 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy is going to be the worst of the worst.

God help me, I’ve found myself in the last week, wishing Hillary had won-never thought I’d do that.

Hell I’d vote for Carrot Top as President rather than Obumble if they were my only two choices.

Seriously.

Like I said, if America felt it had to atone and send a symbolic message like all the bleeding heart idiots insisted-why not vote in Gary Coleman?-he wouldn’t be any worse-—and at least he’d be entertaining.

“Democracy is the school of thought maintaining that the public knows what it wants, and deserves to get it-good and hard”.
H.L. Mencken


29 posted on 11/21/2008 5:33:00 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland (Joe Biden behind a microphone is like Ted Kennedy behind a steering wheel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[Political] Marketing: the Dems are becoming the best at it.

Because it’s all they have to offer.


30 posted on 11/21/2008 5:43:34 AM PST by 4Liberty (Discount window +fractional reserve banking = moral hazard + bank corporate welfare + Inflation tax)
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To: lentulusgracchus

You may be right. A scary thought. The U.S. continues to decline becoming a Third World Banana Republic. The Obammunists exploit the planned crisis model for statist expansion of government power. Orwellian and nightmarish.
Historians will want to understand how this happened, how the U.S. abandoned Christian culture and embraced totalitarianism.


31 posted on 11/21/2008 5:58:14 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Yes, he’s leading a new generation of Americans into global healing with the old clinton administration. LOL


32 posted on 11/21/2008 5:59:58 AM PST by tillacum (Let's find conservative veterans who really know how to fight for this country, next time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The world is laughing their @$$ off at the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kenya Ambassador Confirms
Obama BORN IN KENYA
11-21-8

Kenyan Ambassador plainly admits Obama was born in Kenya and that the location of his birth is “already an attraction” and that a monument may be built there by the government.

Listen beginning at 12:15 into the MP3 File on this page...

http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916
*****


33 posted on 11/21/2008 6:04:37 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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34 posted on 11/21/2008 6:12:22 AM PST by Kaslin (0bama was not elected, the MSM selected him)
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To: Agent Orange Peel

Yeah, Hussein could very well be another lincoln/fdr!!!!!

Ref
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo-arch.html

Nothing in politics happens by accident
-fdr

Semper Remember
Dick G
~~~~~


35 posted on 11/21/2008 6:19:48 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: tillacum

Back together again. Dream team?

36 posted on 11/21/2008 6:27:09 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: CanadianMusherinMI

I expect Obama to follow the example of FDR: In the beginning FDR continued Hoover’s programs, later He
nationalized the economy (NRA)per the advice of his
communist friends (Wallace, Perkins and others).


37 posted on 11/21/2008 9:15:01 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTT


38 posted on 11/21/2008 9:27:45 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: Agent Orange Peel

Bill Clinton was president of the United States from 1993 to 2001 and although he made significant progress toward fiscal responsibility, he did not balance the budget. If you don’t believe me, (that means you CNN!), then kindly point out two consecutive years in the table above where the total US debt actually decreased from year to year.

I wanted everyone to see this so thank you!!! I am amazed about this. Do you know that even conservatives believe that President Clinton balanced the budget during his presidency....I do understand that he did have some help from congress, but he gets all the credit regardless of what congress does...every president does....good and bad.


40 posted on 11/21/2008 10:17:54 AM PST by napscoordinator
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