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Jonah Goldberg: Honestly, Another Abe? (Comparing Obama to FDR and Lincoln)
Townhall ^ | November 21, 2008 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/21/2008 1:08:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In an attempt to dial down expectations for his administration, President-elect Barack Obama's supporters have dropped much of the "messiah" talk.

No more talk of him being The One (Oprah), or a Jedi Knight (George Lucas), or a "Lightworker" (the San Francisco Chronicle), or a "quantum leap in American consciousness" (Deepak Chopra). Instead we have more humble and circumspect conversation about the man. Now he's merely Abraham Lincoln and FDR and Martin Luther King, combined.

It's a step down from divine redeemer, but you have to start somewhere.

Newsweek, Time, the Washington Post, "60 Minutes" and, of course, The O Network (formerly known as MSNBC) have all run wild with this stuff. Depicting Obama as FDR or Lincoln has become a staple of the self-proclaimed "objective" media.

I was on Fox News the other night to throw some cold water on this Obama-as-Lincoln stuff. Alan Colmes of "Hannity & Colmes" chastised me, asking if we shouldn't give Obama "a chance to actually spread his wings and fly a little bit" before disparaging him.

Fine. I actually agree with that. Conservatives should not denounce Obama's performance before he's had a chance to, you know, perform.

But, shouldn't we also hold off on comparing the guy to FDR and Lincoln before he's done anything?

Obama hasn't even taken the oath of office yet, and it's already an unfair right-wing attack to say that Obama isn't on par with Lincoln and FDR. What's next? Will it be slander to say Obama's a carbon-based life form? Will the Secret Service investigate you if you're overheard saying you think Obama's merely "OK"?

While such sycophancy from the national press is lamentable, at this point it's hardly news.

What I find fascinating, however, is not so much the Obama hagiography, but the burning desire for another FDR or Lincoln that underlies it.

According to the various Obama-as-Lincoln narratives, including those from the president-elect himself, Obama is a new Lincoln because he is a "uniter." In several of his most famous speeches, Obama insinuates that he wants to bring the country together the way Honest Abe did. Newsweek and others tout his fondness for Doris Kearns Goodwin's book "Team of Rivals," in which Goodwin argues that Lincoln displayed his political genius by inviting adversaries into his Cabinet.

There are real problems with this model; it didn't work too well for Lincoln. Moreover, who looks at how Lincoln staffed his Cabinet as the defining feature of his presidency? Saying Obama is the next Lincoln because the two men share staffing styles is like saying George Bush is Thomas Jefferson because they both liked chicken soup. If I wear a pointy hat, can I call myself John Paul II?

Lincoln was Lincoln because he fought and won the Civil War and freed the slaves. News flash: That ain't what America is like today -- and thank God for it.

I think Lincoln was just about the greatest president in American history, but I sure don't want to need another Lincoln. Six hundred thousand Americans died at the hands of other Americans during Lincoln's presidency. Lincoln unified the country at gunpoint and curtailed civil liberties in a way that makes President Bush look like an ACLU zealot. The partisan success of the GOP in the aftermath of the war Obama thinks so highly of was forged in blood.

Likewise with FDR. Listening to liberals gush over a "new New Deal" and Obama's call for us to emulate the "Greatest Generation," you'd think they want another Great Depression and World War.

Indeed, liberals have long idolized the 1930s as a decade of great unity. It wasn't. The 1930s was a miserable decade of poverty, domestic unrest, labor strife, violations of civil liberties and widespread fear. If liberals really loved peace, prosperity and national cohesion, they'd remember the 1920s or 1950s more fondly. And yet they don't. Why? Because liberals didn't get to impose their schemes and dreams on the country in those decades. Behind all the talk of unity and bipartisanship and shared sacrifice lies an uglier ambition: power. The audacity of hope behind all this Lincoln-FDR-Obama blather is the dream of riding roughshod over the opposition, of having their way, of total victory.

The Chinese curse and cliche "may you live in interesting times" is on point. Liberals (and a few conservatives as well, alas) seem desperate to live in interesting times. Not me.

You know what I hope? I hope Obama is another Coolidge or Eisenhower. But I'm not holding my breath.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; democrats; gop; history; marines; obama; obamatransitionfile; presidentelectobama; republicans; socialism
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Historians will want to understand how this happened, how the U.S. abandoned Christian culture and embraced totalitarianism.

Read 2 Timothy 4:1-4. We've already been told.

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.


41 posted on 11/21/2008 12:42:14 PM PST by rdb3 (Get out the putter. This one's on the green.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

I wanted Hillary to be the nominee because I thought she was the best of the dems (Scary as it is right?) and I wanted the final 2 to be the best possibility.

Maybe Obama is a plant of Hillary.


42 posted on 11/21/2008 5:09:50 PM PST by mccainvoterinobamaville (My new chant IM STRAIGHT IM GREAT AND I LIVE IN THE LOWER 48!)
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To: truthguy

Growing up in IL, I know some Lincoln zingers too. One goes something like this: You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.


43 posted on 11/21/2008 6:25:10 PM PST by virgil
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To: upcountryhorseman
yup, i see many similarities between FDR and BHO!
thank the good Lord that obama can not serve 4 terms as FDR did!
some thing i did not know until earlier today was this little tidbit: “In 1933, in order to stabilize the monetary system, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, under Executive Order No. 6102, confiscated all privately owned gold in the United States.”
have not got to read the whole article, but here it is for any one interested: http://www.blanchardonline.com/beru/confiscation_again.php
44 posted on 11/21/2008 11:37:38 PM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

45 posted on 11/22/2008 1:20:10 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

LOL, that hat is a few sizes too big.
Good thing the ears are big enough to hold it up!


46 posted on 11/22/2008 1:51:17 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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