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Conservatives Beware: D.C. Gun Ruling A Lot Like Roe (George Will)
Hartford Courant ^ | November 23, 2008 | George F. Will

Posted on 11/22/2008 9:11:13 PM PST by nickcarraway

Edited on 11/24/2008 9:11:50 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 11/22/2008 9:11:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

—bflr—


2 posted on 11/22/2008 9:14:35 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: nickcarraway; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; El Gato; Squantos; Eaker; Jeff Head; wardaddy
bump & a BANG!
3 posted on 11/22/2008 9:19:45 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: nickcarraway

Give me a break.


4 posted on 11/22/2008 9:21:27 PM PST by Stentor (b. July 4, 1776 - d. January 20, 2009 sorely missed.)
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To: nickcarraway
George continues to slide. Sad, really.

The text of the Second Amendment is clear and so is the historical application. A liberal court muddied the waters with Miller, and now the meaning has been restored. There are no umbras and penumbras and emanations issuing from the RKBA Amendment, and even the reasoning given here for Roe is incorrect, which in fact required incorporation of the Ninth Amendment, beyond which the Fourteenth had little if anything to do. But, since we're attempting to apply a Sophist's argument about a right never before claimed paralleling a right recognized since the founding, that isn't really too surprising.

So, we learn that O'Sullivan's Law applies to people as much as to institutions. Farewell, George, time to become Baseball Commish, or some other titular job that doesn't require you to exercise the brains you once -- but manifestly no longer -- have.

5 posted on 11/22/2008 9:22:51 PM PST by FredZarguna (Archimedes, Newton, Leibniz, James and John Bernoulli, Euler, Gauss, Riemann, Hermite, Laplace...)
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To: nickcarraway

So the Vichy who once said:

“we must repeal the embarrassing Second Amendment” tries to tie Heller to Roe?

Tsk tsk tsk, Roe and it’s foundation, Griswold, are essentially Privacy Cases, Heller is a Affirmative Right decision.

Will, the VR, should stick to writing books on baseball...


6 posted on 11/22/2008 9:24:45 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile...Rom 10.10..)
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To: nickcarraway
For cryin' out loud... The logic this "conservative" judge used to compare Heller vs DC to Roe vs Wade is convoluted at best. They in no way compare, in reasoning or in findings.

Where Heller vs DC was a clear, unambiguous decision by the court to find for the "strict constructionist" interpretation of the simple language of the 2nd Amendment, the court had to puzzle out a hidden, non-existent, and invisible meaning to discover a "right" for abortion.

7 posted on 11/22/2008 9:32:09 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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There is NOTHING "ambiguous" about "...the right of the people (AS IN WE THE PEOPLE) to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Will is an idiot. I can't find abortion mentioned in the Constitution but the right to keep and bear arms is in there. No question about it. Come on Georgie! This isn't rocket science.

8 posted on 11/22/2008 9:37:02 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I voted for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: nickcarraway

bookmark


9 posted on 11/22/2008 9:42:11 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: nickcarraway

George Will comparing Heller to Roe. It’s kind of like comparing the Cubs to the Yankees


10 posted on 11/22/2008 9:43:31 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: nickcarraway

He really is losing it. It wasnt challenged ever before,, because everyone knew exactly what it meant.

And every bit of the discussion points to an individuals right. Can anyone who supports this “collective” theory point to a single utterance or word in the federalist papers,, in their letters,, etc, where any founder tried to explain that this was meant to protect state militias?

Will is jumping the shark,, i am already to the point that if Will endorses someone, im suspicious of them already.


11 posted on 11/22/2008 9:46:38 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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The phrase right of the people appears 3 times in the BOR. Why should it have a different meaning in II vs. I and IV?

I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

II: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...

12 posted on 11/22/2008 9:51:54 PM PST by Ken H
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To: nickcarraway

The Heller decision is not like the Roe v. Wade decision, give me a break. . . Sounds like they are trying to push the doctrine of judicial activism and judicial legislation down our throats


13 posted on 11/22/2008 9:55:16 PM PST by volslover
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To: nickcarraway

georgie needs to go write something about baseball.

FMCDH - BITS


14 posted on 11/22/2008 9:57:06 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: nickcarraway

Now the court must slog through an utterly predictable torrent of litigation, writing, piecemeal, a federal gun code concerning the newfound individual right.”

******

Will’s argument is that since it will produce a torrent of litigation then a clearly enumerated individual right was in fact rally nothing more than judicial fiat in the case of Heller. Has Will lost his freaking mind? That somehow the 2nd is no longer an individual but rather a state’s rights issue. What on earth is happening to these swizzle sticks? A collective dementia has set in and turned their brains into mush.

One thing is for certain, Will has clearly outed himself as an azz-kissing beltway hack willing to trash the constitution if it keeps him in the right circles.


15 posted on 11/22/2008 10:02:19 PM PST by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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Will has lost his mind.

There is NO clause in the Bill of Rights that says "the right of unnatural and brainwashed females to murder their offspring, whether out of selfishness or at the instigation of their boyfriends who don't want to pay child support, shall not be infringed."

And until there is, Georgie boy, there's no comparison.

Admit it, you're just trying to suck up to the liberals.

16 posted on 11/22/2008 10:03:25 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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Both rulings, says J. Harvie Wilkinson, suddenly recognized a judicially enforceable right grounded in "an ambiguous constitutional text."

What the hell is so ambiguous or hard to understand about:

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed

17 posted on 11/22/2008 10:05:50 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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an ambiguous constitutional text."

I should have stopped reading at "George Will".

L

18 posted on 11/22/2008 10:08:20 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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I should have stopped reading at "George Will".

I did.

Pat Buchanan named his cat "George Will," because he is a pu$$y...

19 posted on 11/22/2008 10:12:16 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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“...like comparing the Cubs to the Yankees”

Roe and the Yankees are both evil, but how exactly does Heller parallel the Cubs?


20 posted on 11/22/2008 10:15:06 PM PST by Gil4
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