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To: rswan6574
But since ‘natural-born’ status is determined by the fathers nationality at the time of birth where he was born is meaningless if Obama, Sr. is really his father.

That is false. If either parent is a Natural Born citizen, then the child is a Natural Born citizen.

211 posted on 12/03/2008 10:32:12 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I guess I wasn’t specific enough in my statement. I actually meant to say that Obama’s ‘natural-born’ status is determined by his fathers nationality at the time of his birth. Since Obama, Sr. was a British subject, so was Obama.

The constitution requires that the President be a ‘natural-born’ citizen (No person except a natural born Citizen...shall be eligible to the Office of President). The founders were NOT natural born citizens, and they knew it. That’s why they left a loop hole for themselves (or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution). Citizens with dual allegiances “at birth” are not allowed for the office of President, or VP. Note both ‘citizen’ and ‘natural born citizen’ are given as requirements. Obviously one can’t be the other.

The constitution is the Supreme law of the land. Statutes passed by congress declaring who is, or who is not a citizen, are fine. However, congress can’t “define” a term of the constitution. That’s for the court to decide. If statutes violate the constitution they become null and void. The interpretation of the term ‘natural-born’ citizen then is left for the Supreme Court to decide, not congress.

My main point though was that there must be some other reason why Obama doesn’t show his birth certificate.


303 posted on 12/03/2008 12:01:52 PM PST by rswan6574
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