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To: FormerLib
But don’t the Mormons promote the idea that the entire Christian faith fell into heresy shortly after the passing of the Apostles and that it wasn’t restored until Joseph Smith came along.

As a Mormon, let me answer that.

Yes, we do believe that the Church fell into apostasy shortly after the apostles were all killed. We consider the Nicene Creed to be the prime example of this Apostasy.

In short, do they consider any non-Mormons to be Christians in light of that teaching?

Mormons believe that all who believe in and accept as their savior Jesus Christ are Christians. We believe they have not had the full truth available to them and thus are not responsible for that which they do not know, we also believe that all Christians are responsible to search for truth. (so saying I don't know and don't want to know more is rejecting God's offer of more truth and light.)

Mormons are not "Orthodox Christians" because we do not believe in the Trinity and we do not trace our authority to the Catholic church, nor do we claim that all Christians have the authority to go start their own church, we believe in apostles and prophets called in our day by God, not because we are more righteous, but because it's time. (many of the people born before Jesus came were good and righteous people, it just was not time for the savior to preach then either.)

There will be many people on this forum who will attribute every base motive to us or to early church members and founders. By their fruits you will know them.

Have a great day and may God bless and keep you safe from all harm.
339 posted on 12/03/2008 2:39:51 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser; FormerLib
Mormons are not "Orthodox Christians" because we do not believe in the Trinity and we do not trace our authority to the Catholic church, nor do we claim that all Christians have the authority to go start their own church... [DelphiUser]

Don't stop there with the key distinctions...
...how about that Mormons believe in many gods?...
...that Mormons trace their "authority" to what was revealed to a 14 yo lad (or 16 depending on which version of his "first vision" you believe in)...
...that Mormons believe their elder spirit brothers from a spiritual pre-existence were Jesus and Lucifer...
...that Mormons believe that father-god was once a man...
...that Mormons believe they, too, either are already gods or can become one...

Mormons believe that all who believe in and accept as their savior Jesus Christ are Christians. [DelphiUser]

Yes, but then on the basis of Joseph Smith's first vision, found in Mormon scripture Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith - History, verses 18-20... it proceeds to label these Christians as "corrupt" (all of them); and as having 100% creeds which are supposedly an "abomination" unto the Mormon god.

We believe they have not had the full truth available to them... [DelphiUser]

Well, how nice of you to slander the Bible as being less-than-forthright of God's prime AND comprehensive truths! (Need we call any more Mormon witnesses to the stand than somebody who slyly yet openly condemns the supposed "shortcomings" of the Holy Bible???)

343 posted on 12/03/2008 2:49:58 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: DelphiUser
We consider the Nicene Creed to be the prime example of this Apostasy.

Then give us a MORMON, point-by-point analysis of the NC to SHOW us just WHAT is so heretical about it.

429 posted on 12/04/2008 4:51:42 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
By their fruits you will know them.

By your Founder and subsequent leaders WORDS we shall know YOU.

430 posted on 12/04/2008 4:53:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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