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Lets see. [...] I could go on and on...

Perhaps you should, as most of that list, as I said already, has been overturned, or misused infamously, by the Republicans themselves.

Witness the elevation of a Gay Bishop in the American Episcopal Church.

Witness the founding and rise of the Conservative Anglican Church in America in it's stead. The Liberal Churches are not growing. They are losing parishioners. Even the mega-churches cannot sustain themselves. At the same time, the Conservative churches cannot build fast enough. They are young, vibrant, and full of children.

Ultimately we live in a world of difficult realities. You want to live in a world of clear black and white expectations.

Most things are black and white.

Ok, here comes the money shot:

My argument all along is that bitch and whine as much as you want. These votes don't exist right now and they won't until the hearts and minds of the electorate support your positions. [...] polls show that 60% of Americans are socially conservative. They just won't vote that way for the moment. This block of 25% of the electorate who actually votes goes 90% to the Democrats.

Here is where you shoot your entire rant down. The reason Conservatives always get big turnout is BECAUSE 60% of the country is Conservative. The reason they don't turn out for Republicans in general is because Republicans don't give them anything to turn out *for*.

You are looking to capture more of the 25% that vote all the time, I am telling you to appeal to the 60% of the entire population that believes as I do. Reagan knew to do so. Gingrich knew to do so. That is why the Conservative reserve is so deep. The closer you get to Reagan, the more likely you are to get people out of their busy lives and into the voting booths. I really don't understand how come y'all can't grasp this. Conservatives vote Conservative.

Saul Alinsky, laid out a simple plan. Use their values and high expectations against them. This is why you are his bitch. You are an instrument and a tool of the left and you happily justify it in your world of purity.

The instrument and tool of the left are the appeasers, just as the appeasers who tried to pacify Hitler. What is needed is a clear choice between the right and the left- an ideological difference, an opposing force. That is not the Republicans by any means.

Well, you get nothing except for the satisfaction that you didn't have to part with your time and money to actually do something .. instead you just whine and moan and go for the Pyrrhic Victory over and over.. good job.

The Pyrrhic victory would be the one leaving socialists in charge of both parties- Electing MccAin't would have been the Pyrrhic victory. This is the only chance for a win of sorts- Deposing the Bakerites may allow the Reaganites to ascend, so that a true opposition to the liberals may in fact begin to form.

My time and my money were purposed to that task, and in the support of selected Conservative candidates and causes. So I did not sit and whine as you accuse. I DID, and I still DO, and I am quite happy with how things are going.

One more election cycle of this and we are screwed.

We are screwed anyway without a loyal opposition.

Our whole ability to block the most egregious horrors of the next 2 years rests on two RINO senators from Maine and you would let them go too. Because you are an idiot.

If you invest ANY hope in the Senate for any purpose, then it is you who is the idiot. MccAin't and his gang will see to that. Any hope there is lies in the House, and it lies with the Conservatives in both parties.

Then what do you do.. you attempt to fight them and they put you in prison.

ROTFLMAO!! They may put you in prison, but not me.

And then one day you find yourself living in USSA and its only the Financial Crisis that took down McCain that is saving us from this right now and 2 RINOs.

MccAin't was never going to win, regardless of the "financial crisis". And yes, you may keep your RINOs too. They will vote with the liberals anyway (all three of them, I mean).

I used to have feelings of support for folks like you.. but now I just call you a jerk. Prove me wrong. Give me a Conservative Party. Otherwise, figure out how to walk back and make the Republican party into something worth supporting and quit taking a crap on everyone else's head that is actually trying to do something positive.

I am doing something positive. You just don't like it, because you are too short sighted to see the truth of things. You ask me to support the Republicans, but I will never do so, unless they return to Reagan Conservatism, and that they will not do. So the impasse will stand, and I will continue to do all I can to tear the Republicans down, while building something new in their place.