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Prohibition: Forever a lost cause? - 75 years later, Women's Temperance Union not giving up
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | December 5, 2008 | Kara Spak

Posted on 12/05/2008 10:57:18 AM PST by re_tail20

Seventy-five years ago today, golden beer flowed freely from bar taps, champagne corks ricocheted off ceilings and moonshine came out of the closet.

It was the end of Prohibition, but not everyone was lifting a glass in celebration.

The Woman's Christian Temperance Union, whose members famously kneeled down on sticky saloon floors and prayed, had battled hard for a sober America and lost.

Today, their fight continues.

The 5,000 members of the Evanston-based group will again turn to prayer to help tipplers remember there's a devil in that demon liquor.

"I am begging you to please call or contact as many of your members as possible and encourage them to reserve special time Friday for earnest prayer about this," e-mailed national president Rita K. Wert. "This is not a day we are choosing to celebrate because of the sad and unfortunate implications of the repeal."

Today, the women of the temperance union advocate and educate not only against alcohol but use of tobacco and illegal narcotics. The group also opposes abortion and gay marriage, Wert said.

The days of kneeling on the barroom floor are over. But the group -- whose annual dues top out at $15 -- still tries to get its sober message out in other ways, like anti-drinking coloring contests for kids.

It's not easy, Wert said.

"They are definitely more crafty," she said of alcohol and tobacco companies. "They're out to make a buck. They don't care."

Though the group's national officers are all under 60 years old, Wert said she runs up against stereotypes of "little old ladies with curly hair and sneakers."

In Chicago and the suburbs, there are only about six members total, said Mary McWilliams, an amateur Evanston historian who manages the Frances Willard Home. The home is the group's national headquarters, willed to the union by Willard, its second president.

Willard, who died in 1898, was a leader in the temperance movement as well as the women's suffrage movement, McWilliams said.

"She knew the only way they were going to get meaningful temperance legislation was to get out the [women's] vote," she said.

The house, at 1730 Chicago Ave., is open for tours the first and third Sundays of every month from 1 to 4 p.m.


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KEYWORDS: prohibition
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

>Actually, I find a lot of young conservatives . . . and not the “religious right” . . . that never drink. They may not be for prohibition, but they don’t partake.

I drink. I also brew. Anyone that thinks that alcohol is evil should be reminded that Jesus’s first miracle was turning water into wine... and why would Jesus produce something evil?


21 posted on 12/05/2008 11:14:26 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Constitution Day

Bartender, just give me the bottle.

And the one next to it there on the shelf...


22 posted on 12/05/2008 11:14:47 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Aikonaa
Can’t think of a more obnoxious group of busybodies.

Try one of the War on Drugs threads.

23 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:17 AM PST by rhombus
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To: re_tail20

Once again Freepers are missing the religious component of this.

Yes, we who can handle our drinks find them to be busybodies but these women feel that they are doing the work of the Lord. That is why they are against Homosexualism and Abortion too.

Their point of view is that our body belongs to God and we should not do anything to corrupt it.

I don’t fully agree with them but I do respect them. I do see why many women whose homes have been destroyed by alcoholism see the drink as the devil. If you read the posting you will notice that these women are against drugs and any and all kinds of narcotics.

I know Jesus Christ partook wine but I wonder how strong that wine was and how the Lord worked with alcoholics back then. So much is missing in our history that we dont have a full picture of how addictions were handled.


24 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:20 AM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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To: OneWingedShark

Yea, I’ve always asked that of the prohibition types.

Never got any answer.


25 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:32 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

And they’re the next prohibitionists as soon as they get drunk with power.


26 posted on 12/05/2008 11:16:31 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: stylecouncilor

Any excuse will do.


27 posted on 12/05/2008 11:18:01 AM PST by windcliff
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To: Chunga

Nah, these nags are worse than the ACLU. At least I can sip a nice Scotch while griping about the ACLU. :-)


28 posted on 12/05/2008 11:18:11 AM PST by sola_fide
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To: SoftwareEngineer
Their point of view is that our body belongs to God and we should not do anything to corrupt it.

A perfectly legitimate position. But, at least if we're talking about alcohol, not something that the government should decide for adults.

29 posted on 12/05/2008 11:18:30 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: OneWingedShark
I drink. I also brew. Anyone that thinks that alcohol is evil should be reminded that Jesus’s first miracle was turning water into wine... and why would Jesus produce something evil?

Simple. Drinking is not evil. Excessive drunkeness is, much the same way that overeating, greed, and gluttony are.

A man should know his own limits. I do not partake at all because I've got family pre-disposed towards alcoholism on both sides. It's not out of the question if I started I might not stop. So my limit is zero. Other people have limits above zero. No one should be telling them they can't knock back a cold one or two with their buddies.
30 posted on 12/05/2008 11:18:43 AM PST by JamesP81 (I shall give their President the same respect they gave mine.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Amen, brother!


31 posted on 12/05/2008 11:18:45 AM PST by sola_fide
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To: re_tail20

It won’t be popular here but I have always thought the true feminists were the 19th century feminists like these.

Their opposition to abortion and alcohol were both intrinsic to understanding the sources of misery for women.

Alcohol is related to 40% of all violent crime and 40% of all automobile accidents.

Its amazing to me that alcohol gets the light treatment that it does in society.

I do think it will start moving in the direction of smoking which would be good in my view.

Alcohol abuse does a lot of social harm and yet its considered scandalous to criticize it.

I wish these women would be more successful.


32 posted on 12/05/2008 11:20:43 AM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: re_tail20

Just call it medicine and the pain will disappear... AND the Gov will pay for it. ;-)


33 posted on 12/05/2008 11:20:43 AM PST by rhombus
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To: OneWingedShark

Mamma Mia, these people would strip the hills of Piedmont and Burgundy, kill the pride of Bavaria!


34 posted on 12/05/2008 11:21:10 AM PST by Mancolicani
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To: Constitution Day

I don’t drink, but that picture is inspiration to start. Guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty,...


35 posted on 12/05/2008 11:22:10 AM PST by messierhunter
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To: Constitution Day
Lips that touch liquor shall not touch ours

Is that a promise?

36 posted on 12/05/2008 11:23:24 AM PST by NeoCaveman (posting from the office of the bitter clingers)
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To: JamesP81

Just curious,

Would you, or do you, drink non-alcoholic beer or non-alcoholic wine, and if so, how much?

In Oliver Stone’s “W”, George W. Bush is shown drinking non-alcoholic beer, and he seems fine, and finally gets his life together


37 posted on 12/05/2008 11:27:46 AM PST by re_tail20
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To: JamesP81
It's not out of the question if I started I might not stop. So my limit is zero. Other people have limits above zero. No one should be telling them they can't knock back a cold one or two with their buddies.

Amen. I'm the exact same way, I'm right there with you. Can't say I have much of a family history of alcoholism, but there are other forms of addiction that run in one side of my family regarding drugs, and I know personally I'm prone to addiction. Once I start something, whatever it is, I have a very hard time stopping, so I just never started drinking. I know that for myself it's the right choice, but I don't presume to tell others what their choice should be.
38 posted on 12/05/2008 11:28:51 AM PST by messierhunter
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To: NeoCaveman

Hopefully! LOL


39 posted on 12/05/2008 11:29:04 AM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: I_Like_Spam
Not at first, but as it becomes increasingly difficult to provide the promised benefits, certain measures will be adopted to "reduce health risks" (and thus delivery costs). Drinking, smoking, certain driving habits, eating fatty foods, too much sodium, refined sugars, corn syrups, cholesterol, etc etc etc. First inhibited (additional taxes, "zoning", consumption "credits", mandatory reeducation) and then prohibited (forced pharmaceutical therapies, import and manufacturing bans, random searches, health screenings, jail time).

Such policies may even be hailed by tomorrow's "economic conservatives" for their ability to keep taxes lower, and by "social conservatives" in the spirit of the prohibition ladies here (or in the context of gluttony, etc). They might get creative and declare "war on illness", or tie it somehow into national security and get the neo diaper-wetting cons to sign on. Leftists of all stripes will sign on obviously to protect their precious "right" to medical care.

The major theme faced in these battles is the difference between positive and negative liberties. Health care (a "positive liberty") will be declared a fundamental human right, while production, purchase, or consumption of consumer products ("negative liberties") will move from right first to privilege, and then to crime. Compulsory collectivism is the natural enemy of liberty; new generations of "rights" never augment - they only supplant. The long-term battles faced tomorrow will not have battle lines drawn along today's normally accepted political dichotomy.

40 posted on 12/05/2008 11:29:54 AM PST by M203M4 (GOP problem: failed to deliver on promises. Solution: promise instead what was already delivered?!?!)
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