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Why Obama's natural born status matters
newmediajournal ^ | 3 December 2008 | Frank Salvato

Posted on 12/05/2008 8:35:50 PM PST by JGA2Z

The Founders and Framers were incredibly intelligent people. In fact, they operated, intellectually, at a grade 24 level, grade 12 equating to the senior year in high school. Therefore, it shouldn’t come as any surprise that each Article and Amendment – each tenet – in The Charters of Freedom was painstakingly examined, debated, reviewed and, finally, included. Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution – the Article that clearly states the qualifications for holding the office of President of the United States – is no different.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: artbell; birthcertificate; certifigate; constitution; crackerhead; csection; naturalborncitizen; notthisshiitagain; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; rinobamacons; rinobullies
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In short:

— a natural born citizen would be one who, by operation of nature (descent) was born American, regardless of birthplace;

— a citizen would be one who, by operation of positive law, was deemed an American at birth, regardless of parents’ citizenship; and

— a naturalized citizen who, by operation of positive law and volition, becomes an American sometime subsequent to birth.

That's a good argument and the best definition I've ever heard argued concerning natural born citizen.  The next step is convincing a few key judges.  I haven't read any decisions that would rate as precedence agreeing with you, but there's always a first time.

61 posted on 12/06/2008 7:40:48 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
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To: fightinJAG

“Everything beyond that is made up by man and, thus, is not by operation of nature, but by operation of law.”

Exactly so. That’s what rules us: the law of men, not the law of God. Determining who is a citizen is not a matter for theologists, as you say, but neither is it a matter for common sense.


62 posted on 12/07/2008 3:37:12 AM PST by Tublecane
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