Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Lessons from Britain and Canada Could Save the GOP
Town Hall ^ | November 21, 2008 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 12/06/2008 2:32:36 PM PST by yongin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-35 last
To: yongin

Cameron is a British Obama.


21 posted on 12/06/2008 3:06:53 PM PST by FFranco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yongin

I like this excerpt.


Most of the program did, however, succeed. If you go to the party’s website or watch their ads you will see a much more hopeful message than you did a few years ago. Gone is the old logo, a rather intimidating hand grasping a torch. It has been replaced by a very happy-looking tree. Everything about the new message is hopeful, sunny, and forward looking — and the focus is now on “quality of life” issues like family, healthcare and education. Granted, the old “taxes and national security” message is still there, but it comes packaged as part of a larger message that the Conservative Party cares about people. Cameron also makes a point of being modern and tech-savvy, as illustrated by his “WebCameron” video blogs. These are all fantastic moves, and the Republican Party should move quickly to implement them (of course, technology is philosophically neutral). By the way, the people who are broadening this discussion here in America are conservative governors like Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal. They are the real “American Camerons” in my mind.


22 posted on 12/06/2008 3:12:47 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SmokingJoe
The 2010 prospects depend a lot on the state of the economy.

As for RNC Chair, who do you favor - Steele, Dawson, Saul A., Duncan? I can't believe Duncan is running again. He thinks Saxby’s reelection win entitles him to another term. The MI GOP did not fare well under Saul A's leadership. I suspect his main priority as RNC Chair will be to help Mitt Romney get the Presidential nomination in 2012. Dawson proved he is not incompetent. The GOP is still strong in SC. As for Steele, he is telegenic and ran a dynamite Senate campaign in the Marxist red state of MMD. But he was never elected in his own right. With O’Malley’s approval ratings shaky, Steele might be a contender for MD Governor. So my pick for RNC Chair would be Kit Dawson.

23 posted on 12/06/2008 3:27:48 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: FFranco

No, Tony Blair was our Obama. We’re over that now, at least until the next one comes along. Despite all the tree-hugging media image, Cameron is IMHO a true Conservative (in the British Disraelian sense) who believes in traditional English values and liberties and one-nationism....


24 posted on 12/06/2008 3:28:03 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Frantzie
As soon as Harper won the Canuck Libs pulled a fast one with a coalition to kick him out of office a immediately.

Not quite. They had an opportunity on Nov 19 to vote not to accept the speech from the throne. They seemed to think that they would appear less obviously idiotic by waiting two weeks to attempt it, or that the GG would be more likely to let them get away with it.
25 posted on 12/06/2008 3:31:10 PM PST by caveat emptor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

I agree....rename it the Conservative party and let what’s left the Republicans decide where they want to be...


26 posted on 12/06/2008 4:38:41 PM PST by teg_76
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

Too long, country can’t take it.


27 posted on 12/06/2008 4:51:41 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop; teg_76; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

If they did that in the 30’s (or 10’s 50’s whatever though civil rights would be a major sticking point in after WW2) it might have helped Southern dems defect faster. An official attempted at a merger and purging of liberal Republicans would have made sense then.

“Oh look we’re a new different party, not the one your grandfather died fighting in the civil war”.

I wonder if such a change today would appeal to idiots who call themselves conservative (still over 40% of the electorate I think) that vote for fauxcon labor rats.


28 posted on 12/06/2008 4:59:46 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: yongin; goldstategop; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

The lesson from Canada seems to be “only have 1 right of center party and hope the main left party remains scandal plagued and incompetent”.

The lesson from Britain is “let the economy suck after the other party has been in charge for 15 years and talk like a moderate climate change climate change green green”.

For us the sheen on his majesty needs to come off. I don’t believe there has been some liberal sea change. Bush and GOP incompetence and failure to keep their promises coupled with a recession gave the left this opening. In a few years most of those college aged Obamites will (hopefully) cease caring about “green politics” and “gay rights” and be worring about feeding their families like most people.

In the short term we need far-left overreaching and incompetence or else Barry will probably get another term.

Continued economic crisis could result in a swift rebound OR could result in a FDR style disaster depending on how stupid America really is.


29 posted on 12/06/2008 5:13:09 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Impy

Unless America becomes more like France, the two party system will remain. Success of 3rd party movements tend to be short lived. Take Jesse Ventura. After winning the Governorship, the Reform party hoped to expand nationwide. However, Ventura didn’t run for another term and the Reform Party couldn’t win any other office in MN. Support for 3rd parties are “summer flings” rather than long term relationships. When people join 3rd parties, they quickly learn how tedious the political process can be. Its more than waving signs at rallies. Its long hours stuffing envelopes, knocking on doors, and making phone calls on a Weekend afternoon or Weekday evening. They figure why do this work for just 1% of the vote? They eventually leave the 3rd party and either become politically apathetic or become reabsorbed by the 2 party system.


30 posted on 12/06/2008 5:27:39 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: yongin

Oh no the idea wasn’t a third party nut rather renaming the Republican party.

And my historical ‘wish’ idea for back in the day was for a GOP merger with ‘conservative dems’ under a new banner, not a third party.

I in no way am for that foolishness, a split on the right eliminated any chance of anything but a Liberal Party Government in Canada until they merged.


31 posted on 12/06/2008 6:06:35 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: yongin

Excellent analysis. The Republicans cannot keep winning every elections. No party can win every elections in a democratic system or else it will not be a democracy anymore. In 2008 every odd under the sun was against the Republicans and hence we lost. The news about the demise of Republicanism and Conservatism is greatly exxagerated.


32 posted on 12/06/2008 6:43:37 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
I heard Bob Bennett on Radio the other day and he was saying that the doom and gloom that the media and even some conservatives pundits are saying about the Republican party is way over exxagerated. He mentioned that the situation of the Republican party in 2008 is still much better in 1976 after Carter won and democrats had a 2/3 majoritiy in Congress. He said that back then top Republicans were thinking of changing the name of the party because they feared that the name Republican was too dangerous in politics. And then we all know the rest of the story.
33 posted on 12/06/2008 6:50:35 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

Yep. We aint going to win if we are just the white Southern Baptist party.


34 posted on 12/06/2008 6:58:51 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: yongin; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

-


35 posted on 12/06/2008 7:43:51 PM PST by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-35 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson