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To: blaquebyrd

1.I made no mention of the surge.
2.I’ve made up nothing....
3.I wouldn’t quote McCain, unless you’re willing to include ALL of McCain’s assine quotes, positions and foolishness.

Nothing - note - NOTHING in McCain’s career points to any military genius. In fact - he graduated near the bottom of his Annapolis class, and nearly qualified as an ACE for the number of AMERICAN planes destroyed while he was the pilot.
Had he not been from a family of Admirals - he would have been bounced before earning his wings....

For Rumsfeld’s documented position on the “surge”, its timing and the parallel efforts required for success - read him in his own words, here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/opinion/23rumsfeld.html

There are some interesting facts and revelations in the article.

On another tact, Rumsfeld attempted to get the services into a leaner, meaner, faster more responsive and aggressive force... Rumsfeld clearly favored units like the SEALS, Special Forces, Rangers, RECON, Marines, fast charging Army mechanized Infantry, etc, etc..... Several Perfumed Generals had different goals.

Were mistakes made in Iraq — damned right! And BIG ONES.
Through it all - we had a CIC, called President Bush who could have ordered Rumsfeld and the Military to do the “right thing”....... He didn’t. The buck stops at Bush’s desk.... Not Rumsfeld...
And owners fire coaches, when the players suck.


67 posted on 12/06/2008 7:51:13 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
"Through it all - we had a CIC, called President Bush who could have ordered Rumsfeld and the Military to do the “right thing”....... He didn’t. The buck stops at Bush’s desk.... Not Rumsfeld... And owners fire coaches, when the players suck."

President Bush is not a military tactician, he is an executive who hires them. Bottom line is Rumsfeld was derelict in his duties and rightfully fired when he failed to employ a successful strategy for winning the war in Iraq. Rumsfeld failed the president and McCain was right to call for a surge and Rumsfeld's dismissal. You can hate the messenger but you can't dispute the fact that the Petreaus surge has succeeded and saved American lives in the process.

68 posted on 12/06/2008 8:10:15 PM PST by blaquebyrd
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