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La. voters oust indicted Rep. William Jefferson
http://www.google.com/ ^ | Dec 6th, 2008 | By CAIN BURDEAU

Posted on 12/06/2008 8:35:20 PM PST by Maelstorm

Unofficial results showed Republican attorney Anh "Joseph" Cao denying Jefferson a 10th term.

Republicans made an aggressive push to get rid of the 61-year-old incumbent, who has pleaded not guilty to charges of bribery, laundering money and misusing his congressional office.

Cao won a predominantly black and heavily Democratic district that covers most of New Orleans. He will become the first Vietnamese-American in Congress.

He came to the U.S. as a child after the fall of Saigon in 1975. He went on to earn degrees in philosophy, physics and law.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: cao; la2008; williamjefferson
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To: SeekAndFind

Neither of Jindal’s parents were citizens at the time of his birth.


41 posted on 12/06/2008 9:06:31 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Jindal was born in the US so is a citizen. But if both his parents immigrated here, became citizens, and were citizens at the time of Jindal’s birth, then he would be a “natural born” citizen and qualify to hold the offoce of President.


42 posted on 12/06/2008 9:09:14 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Maelstorm

Congrats to New Orleans. I drove my grandmother to vote against Dollar Bill Jeffuhson today :D Turnout was very light.


43 posted on 12/06/2008 9:09:31 PM PST by chris37
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To: Maelstorm

William “Freezer” Jefferson gets iced. It took the voters of Louisiana to do work Democrat majority should have done in the last 2 years.


44 posted on 12/06/2008 9:09:58 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: seekthetruth

Again, they were not citizens at the time of his birth.


45 posted on 12/06/2008 9:12:19 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

I have not heard of this...any details? I’ve been all over the Zero BC threads and missed any discussion that Jindal is not eligible. I hope that is not true.


46 posted on 12/06/2008 9:12:40 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: trumandogz
Neither of Jindal’s parents were citizens at the time of his birth.

But that is IRRELEVANT. America's system is Jus soli (Latin for "right of the soil" or, somewhat figuratively, "right of the territory"), or birthright citizenship. It is a right by which nationality or citizenship can be recognised to any individual born in the territory of the related state.

Jindal was BORN IN BATON ROGUE. Therefore he is a natural born citizen of the USA according to our current laws.

We might want to change this in the future because too many illegals are using this system to have children here, but it STILL is the law of the land. That makes Jindal a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the USA and therefore, ELIGIBLE to be President.

Now, if Obama can prove the same ( i.e., he was BORN IN THE USA ), then, the fact that his father is Kenyan is IRRELEVANT.
47 posted on 12/06/2008 9:13:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Maelstorm

Here’s hoping that Congressman Cao thanks the Democrat House leadership in making it possible for him to serve his constituents, because if their political ancestors in the 93rd Congress hadn’t have stabbed South Vietnam in the back by cutting off all assistance in October ‘74, he wouldn’t be there today.


48 posted on 12/06/2008 9:13:49 PM PST by mkjessup (In January 1942, President 0bama would have met Premier Tojo without any preconditions.)
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To: trumandogz

What are the qualifications for VP?

What if he was VP and became President?


49 posted on 12/06/2008 9:14:16 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: SeekAndFind

Even Donofrio does not question that fact that Obama was born in Hawaii. His case is based on the citizenship of his father.

So, if Donofrio is right, neither Obama or Jindal can be President.


50 posted on 12/06/2008 9:17:56 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Maelstorm

YES!


51 posted on 12/06/2008 9:18:53 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: trumandogz

I missed your earlier post. You are right. Since his parents were not citizens he can not run for President. He certainly is a great Governor!


52 posted on 12/06/2008 9:19:05 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: TheConservativeParty

Donofrio’s theory is that neither Obama or Jindal are qualified based on thefact that their fathers were not American citizens at the time of their birth.


53 posted on 12/06/2008 9:19:38 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Jindal/Petraeus


54 posted on 12/06/2008 9:21:07 PM PST by takbodan (.)
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To: trumandogz
Even Donofrio does not question that fact that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Then Donofrio DOES NOT HAVE A CASE. Obama's father's citizenship is CONSTITUTIONALLY IRRELEVANT.

US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.
55 posted on 12/06/2008 9:23:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: trumandogz; SeekAndFind
Even Donofrio does not question that fact that Obama was born in Hawaii. His case is based on the citizenship of his father.

Donofrio's case has no standing. Birth citizenship (I would usually say unfortunately) as a US citizen has no basis in the status of your parents, but solely on whether you were born within an area of US sovereign jurisdiction (note - not necessarily just the 50 States, which is why McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone which was at the time a US military base, was still eligible). If Donofrio's case had merit, then we could celebrate, because millions of Latin American "anchor babies" would be non-citizens and could be deported along with their illegal families. This is obviously not the case, however.

56 posted on 12/06/2008 9:24:07 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: trumandogz

They are both unqualified to hold the office of President.

A “natural born” citizen is one who is born on US soil AND born from parents who are citizens at the time of the one’s birth.


57 posted on 12/06/2008 9:25:53 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Maelstorm

One crooked democrat liberal/thief down, 58 to go in the Senate and 260 or so in the House.


58 posted on 12/06/2008 9:26:31 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: seekthetruth
A “natural born” citizen is one who is born on US soil AND born from parents who are citizens at the time of the one’s birth.

Not true. You have the whole question of what "natural born" means backwards. It isn't about whether somebody born in the USA had parents who were *not* US citizens. It's about whether somebody who was NOT born in the USA had parents who *were* US citizens. It revolves as a legal question for those who are born of two US citizens, but were born overseas, e.g. a child of two US military personnel born on a US base in Germany. IIRC, such a child is still considered a "natural born" citizen of the USA, according to US law.

Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857) basically established the jus soli principle which says that a child born on US soil - to ANY parents - is a US citizen by birth. United States v. Wong Kim Ark 169 U.S. 649 subsequently upheld this.

The issue with Obama is not whether his dad was a foreign citizen or not. The issue is whether Obama *himself* was born in Hawaii or in Kenya.

59 posted on 12/06/2008 9:37:11 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: seekthetruth
A “natural born” citizen is one who is born on US soil AND born from parents who are citizens at the time of the one’s birth.

Alas, I wish this were so, but it just isn't. Why do you think millions of illegals are having children in this country ? It is IN ORDER to make their children NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS. How do they know this ? Immigration lawyers tell them so and have done so for years.

If the courts ruled for Donofrio, not only would Obama be disqualified, MILLIONS of kids in this country would be automatically STRIPPED of their citizenship by birth. Just ain't gonna happen.
60 posted on 12/06/2008 9:37:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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