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It would appear that you all have lost track of your own arguments.

Are you arguing in favour of defending yourselves during a raid, while outnumbered 15 to 1? (Very naive, if so.)

Are you arguing against no-knock raids? (Then you apparently don’t want to see police gather any actual evidence that can result in a conviction.)

Are you arguing in favour of legalizing drugs? (I agree with that, but it won’t eliminate the need for no-knock raids even if the number is reduced.)

Are you arguing in favour of “no errors” on the job? (Again, incredibly naive... People are human.)

Are you trying to equate LEO’s to airline pilots and air traffic controllers? (Then you are arguing in favour of much higher IQ’s on the job, and much higher salaries.)

You all are opposed to police making mistakes on the job, but no one seems to have any solutions to offer, nor have any of you (including CATO) got any idea why these mistakes happen.

Maybe someone should set up a Foundation to study the issue.

It is this ridiculous “Police should be flawless mentality” that has led to absolute, anarchist-driven chaos in Greece.


60 posted on 12/11/2008 5:41:03 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief

Yes. To pretty much all of your strawmen. Law enforcement should be held to a much higher standard as there are INNOCENT lives at risk every time they f*ck up like this.


65 posted on 12/11/2008 5:50:17 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: TaxRelief

AS I said in post 54. Everyone involved should be aware of all information on the warrant.Everyone involved should assess any and all possible safety factors. Some simple questions to ask yourself before doing a task.1. What am I about to do? A.Read the warrant, be sure of address. 2. Is everyone involved in agreement? A.Does anyone have any questions. 3. What could go wrong?A. Are we sure we got the right guy/address.4. Am I willing to sacrifice my life to serve this warrant.A.Is there a safer way to apprehend this guy and still get a conviction. And #5.What will my wife and kids do if I don’t come home at the end of my shift.A. Maybe we should think this through a little more.


73 posted on 12/11/2008 6:07:19 AM PST by eastforker
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To: TaxRelief
Are you arguing against no-knock raids? (Then you apparently don’t want to see police gather any actual evidence that can result in a conviction.)

No knock raids are a violation of the US Constitution. Everyone that engages in them is a criminal.

Do you believe in the law or the Constitution? Apparently not.
147 posted on 12/12/2008 4:36:56 PM PST by microgood
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