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Valkyrie (First Review of Tom Cruise Film on Plot Against Hitler)
Daily Variety ^ | 12/11/2008 | Todd McCarthy

Posted on 12/11/2008 9:04:57 AM PST by mojito

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To: TFMcGuire

I understand, but Heydrich actually was not a homo, as a matter of fact, quite the opposite, with a mistress as well as a wife and children.


61 posted on 12/16/2008 5:11:58 AM PST by RedCobra (r)
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To: RedCobra

Beard!


62 posted on 12/16/2008 7:25:25 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: Cheburashka

I didn’t make any comments about Rommel.

I am fully aware of his demise. I have also read enough books about him to know he was a class act.

Hitler virtually executed him (by ordering him to commit suicide), thus eliminating him but gaining a hero for the Reich.


63 posted on 12/16/2008 7:28:28 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: Cheburashka

RE: “Check out what happened to von Stauffenburg’s family to find out the alternative.”

According to the notes at the end of the movie, his wife died in 2006.


64 posted on 12/17/2008 8:49:57 PM PST by Gil4
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To: mojito

The AAFES theater on our base had a free pre-screening of this movie - it was one of the best I have seen in years.


65 posted on 12/17/2008 8:53:46 PM PST by Gil4
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To: Pistolshot
I'm not sure of the history, but in the movie it made sense. Just killing Hitler wasn't enough because Himmler was next in line and was worse. They had to kill both and take control of the government before the SS could move in and fill the void.

Even though we knew the outcome, the swings of emotion really made the movie. There was tension before the attempted assassination, triumph as everything seemed to be working, uncertainty as their communication is cut off, then panic as they attempted to escape after learning Hitler was still alive.

I thought it was an excellent movie, so it won't surprise me if the critics hate it.

Was Tom Cruise a great von Stauffenberg? I don't know enough about von Stauffenberg to tell you. I would be surprised if he was really as cocky as Cruise played him, but they probably had to do that to make the plot move along at a movie-length pace. (There was some of the obnoxious Top Gun Tom Cruise that came through.) But the movie told the story well, assuming the history is reasonably accurate. I may go see it again in a descent theater and when the DVD comes out, I will buy it.

66 posted on 12/17/2008 9:21:43 PM PST by Gil4
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To: Patrick1

Saw the movie with my son. We both thought it was compelling.


67 posted on 12/25/2008 3:47:00 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: skeeter

That’s hilarious!
By the way, the first review I got was from a friend of my daughter. He said the movie stinks.


68 posted on 12/25/2008 3:53:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: mojito

As I recall, ‘War and Remembrance’ dealt at length with this particular subject.


69 posted on 12/25/2008 3:56:59 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: mojito

I have wondered how the producers would manage to write a minority actor ( read ‘person of color’) into the plot, and who would it be, some rapper bro or ho?


70 posted on 12/25/2008 4:00:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Many come here to merely strike poses, posture and feel superior to others.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Cruise was excellent in the Last Samarai


71 posted on 12/25/2008 4:03:23 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: mojito

I like Cruise as an actor. He was really good in War of the Worlds and last Samurai.


72 posted on 12/25/2008 4:07:26 PM PST by linn37
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To: mojito

Trash. One review said that the Cruise boy speaks English with an English accent, which perfectly proper for an American film, but then other actors speak with the British accent, and then one actor,a German, speaks English with a German accent. Amateur directing hour (or two.)


73 posted on 12/25/2008 4:08:06 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Many come here to merely strike poses, posture and feel superior to others.)
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To: Revolting cat!
The Fox critic hated it and said it was bordering on revisionism. The arm bands removed as well downplaying most of the Nazi symbolism. Basically the movie is like that Star Trek episode where Kirk and Spock drop into a parallel world to earth circa 1941 as psuedo-Nazis. I don't know all that much about Von Stauffenberg except he was conspirator in a plot to kill the leader of his own floundering regime. What if they had succeeded? History says we could have avoided millions dead and such epic battles as the Bulge and concluded the war a little quicker in the Pacific. Bigger issue and conspiracy was did American and British negotiators work behind the scenes to facilitate this assassination and were assured of a conditional surrender and realignment with the Allies against an emerging Soviet bear.
74 posted on 12/26/2008 7:36:39 AM PST by pburgh01
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To: Cicero
Marcus,

I saw it tonight. It's a good film. Seriously.

Not all Germans were Nazis any more than all Americans are Democrats just because of Odmama.

Based on what I've seen you post, you will like this movie. And, I'm glad I saw it in the theater for the full affect.

One technical flaw that really doesn't take away from the movie is that the Germans are attacked by P-40 Flying Tigers, teeth and everything.

75 posted on 01/10/2009 9:52:14 PM PST by Barnacle (God help us.)
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